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VA Bigbore
01-13-2007, 07:27 AM
I just purchased the new Hornady manual. This edition is a single manual as opposed to two as has been the past norm for Hornady. I really like this edition. It will compliment my other manuals very well.

This edition includes loadings for 223 WSSM,243 WSSM, 25 WSSM, 6.5 x 284, 6.5 x 06, and a lot of other older obscure cartrides. The layout of info is easily understood and it gives several loadings for each bullet weight. Although the Hodgdon (and IMR) powder listings are not what I would like, they do offer some for each cartridge. This manual has rifle, pistol, and rifle in pistol (Encore, Contender) loadings.

Thought I would give a review if any of you were interested. Good manual for reloading.

grizz106
01-13-2007, 03:56 PM
thought of purchasing the same but it was pretty spendy for the 2 peice set. held off as there was no point spending that kind of money I thought anyways on any manual. 60 something bucks or therabouts.

wanted to get one and read on what they have on the Garand is all.

thanks for the post.

JoeG52
01-13-2007, 04:34 PM
$26.99 at Midway
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=438424

kdub
01-13-2007, 05:50 PM
That'll be my next reloading purchase! :D

VA Bigbore
01-14-2007, 06:30 AM
thought of purchasing the same but it was pretty spendy for the 2 peice set. held off as there was no point spending that kind of money I thought anyways on any manual. 60 something bucks or therabouts.

wanted to get one and read on what they have on the Garand is all.

thanks for the post.

This is not a two book manual, like the 6th edition. Single book only. And yes, it is a little expensive for a reloading manual, but there is a lot of cartridges covered in this book that I haven't seen listed elsewhere. It covers all the shortmags and super-shortmags and quite a few of the old obscure cartridges.

unclenick
01-14-2007, 09:52 AM
. . . wanted to get one and read on what they have on the Garand is all. . . thanks for the post.

CAUTION! Potentially damaging loads are listed below. They must be worked up to slowly and the mentioned modifications to a Garand gas cylinder plug must be employed.

The Hornady 6th edition includes their Garand section and, if you find a copy, the publishing of the 7th edition might have driven down the price of any remaining copies of the 6th? The main thing that is different about the Garand loads is they are all lower than bolt gun .30-06 loads, with the lower limits based on reliable operation and the upper limits based on safe gas port pressures rather than chamber pressures. Chamber pressures are all well below what a Garand receiver will tolerate. Indeed, the upper limit loads probably are safe recipe loads for this reason.

In QuickLOAD the upper Hornady Garand load listed of 46.1 grains of IMR 4895 for their 178 grain A-max bullet matches the pressure produced by Lake City 1969 M72 match ammunition pretty exactly. M72 has a bullet that, though named 172 grains, is actually specified to average 173 grains (171.5 min, 174.5 max) and employs 46.5 grains of IMR 4895. Either load produces below 8300 PSI at the muzzle, and that's about as hard as you want to push the operating rod on a Garand. Especially now that op-rods are an increasingly scarce and expensive part. They are the part that wears out most often, and the CMP has altered the John C. Garand match rules requiring as-issued parts to allow National Match op-rods to be substituted for issue op-rods. People were having trouble finding enough as-issued op-rods in good condition. Bending and corrosion under caked up carbon just behind the piston are the common culprits. The latter can be removed by soaking in Slip 2000’s product for cleaning gas cylinders, then brushing off. Soaking in Gunzilla may also work eventually. Both products actually break down carbon bonding in caked deposits.

A few years ago a friend and I modified his Garand for 1000 yard match shooting. The main change we made was to put in a gas cylinder plug with a bleeder port to lower gas cylinder pressure. These are great gadgets for private use and for matches that allow them. You can select a port opening to eject the brass nearby, rather than flinging it into the shooting jacket of the guy two points down on your right. This eases the forces on the op-rod and extends its service life considerably. I believe we wound up running the 175 grain SMK with 49.1 grains of Varget or 56.4 grains of H4350 for the 1000 yard rifle. Both loads are too hot for the op-rod, but the latter is way too hot (9300 PSI at the muzzle) for it without that plug port. Both fall within Garand chamber pressure limits and produced no pressure signs in our testing. The barrel was a Barnett heavy we had chambered with a military dimensioned pull-through reamer to minimum headspace and the loads were in Lake City brass. Indeed, with the gas plug removed (single shot mode) I have run the Varget charge up even higher without pressure signs, but don’t want to publish how much higher because accuracy seemed to deteriorate above that point, anyway. It may already be unsafe in some bolt guns and should not be tried without working up slowly. A Garand receiver in good condition is exceptionally strong.