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reneerick
01-31-2007, 11:57 PM
I recently got the trigger on my Rossi puma 44 mag lightened by a gunsmith. Since then the trigger is good though the action has got tight when the lever is toward the end of its range toward the muzzle. If you work the lever back and forth in this position you can feel the bolt applying a lot of pressure on the hammer, which you can see the trigger being depressed during this action. I could feel the difference as soon as I levered the gun though he insisted adjusting the trigger couldn't of done that to the action. This gun smith has now moved away. What has he done to my gun? Has anyone else experienced the same problem? I guess I'll find another smith to correct the problem. I heard the Rossis aren't the easiest to re-assemble so I don't feel confident having a look myself.
Thanks.
Chief RID
02-01-2007, 02:25 AM
Is it possible that he repositioned the trigger spring in some way. ? Did he put on a spring kit? Sounds like he implied he did not. Does it feel like something dragging or a heavy feel like the spring for the trigger is heavier than before?
Keep in mind I know nothing about the rossi and very little about such matters on my 1894.
reneerick
02-01-2007, 04:01 AM
Is it possible that he repositioned the trigger spring in some way. ? Did he put on a spring kit? Sounds like he implied he did not. Does it feel like something dragging or a heavy feel like the spring for the trigger is heavier than before?
Keep in mind I know nothing about the rossi and very little about such matters on my 1894.
G'day Chief,
As far as I know he never used a spring kit. What you feel is metal on metal, which is the bolt dragging over the hammer with quite a bit of pressure. Like yourself I don't know much about the internals of these things.
P.S I read your thread about you trying to get your 1894 to shoot cast bullets, mate you have the most patients of any rifleman I know!
QuarterChoke
02-01-2007, 10:31 PM
Most likely the gunsmith dressed too much off the nose of the trigger sear to smooth up the pull. In doing so the hammer has to rotate forward slightly more to engage the sear, thus rubbing on the bottom of the bolt. Hopefully he didn't ruin the hammer also. You need a competent gunsmith, with the accent on competent.
ironhead7544
02-02-2007, 06:46 AM
Try stevesgunz. He specializes in 92s.
reneerick
02-02-2007, 11:42 PM
Quarter choke: If you are correct does this mean the trigger sear and hammer are possibly be buggered then? If so I'll be filthy. What you explain sounds like it could be whats happening.
Ironhead. Would love Steve Young to have a look at it though the big problem is I live Down Under (Australia).
ironhead7544
02-03-2007, 04:21 AM
Sorry. I didnt see that. Does the rifle still function ok? Sounds like something is binding. Working the sear notch shouldnt have that effect. Could be something else out of place.
reneerick
02-03-2007, 03:57 PM
Sorry. I didnt see that. Does the rifle still function ok? Sounds like something is binding. Working the sear notch shouldnt have that effect. Could be something else out of place.
Yes the rifle still works ok, though not as smooth as it used to be. I'm just worried the more I use it I keep thinking am I doing more damage, feels like to me the gun is chewing itself up, the harsh metal on metal feel. I'd better get it looked at soon I guess.
QuarterChoke
02-03-2007, 10:16 PM
reneerick,
It is not possible to make a diagnosis on the forum, but it sounds like the sear was dressed off somewhat in an attempt to smooth up the trigger pull. This would change the position of the hammer when the sear engages the notch on the hammer. That could let it drag on the bottom of the bolt. The full cock notch on the hammer might have been messed with also. It is not possible to tell without stripping the gun and having a look.
If the stiff working of the action is due to the hammer dragging on the underside of the bolt, you can see if the stiffness goes away by thumbing the hammer back while you work the lever. This may require somebody to help you or growing another arm and hand.
reneerick
02-04-2007, 09:23 PM
reneerick,
It is not possible to make a diagnosis on the forum, but it sounds like the sear was dressed off somewhat in an attempt to smooth up the trigger pull. This would change the position of the hammer when the sear engages the notch on the hammer. That could let it drag on the bottom of the bolt. The full cock notch on the hammer might have been messed with also. It is not possible to tell without stripping the gun and having a look.
If the stiff working of the action is due to the hammer dragging on the underside of the bolt, you can see if the stiffness goes away by thumbing the hammer back while you work the lever. This may require somebody to help you or growing another arm and hand.
Mate I tried what you said. Definately felt like it was before with the hammer depressed while I worked the lever, although there was hardly any spring left for the hammer to be depressed. It took all of the thumb pressure I had to push the hammer down to allow the smooth motion of the bolt.
Thanks Rick
I have seen this on Marlins also especially with trigger jobs as Quarterchoke described. You (or a gunsmith) may be able to just take some metal off the top of the hammer to eliminate the drag. I have two Marlins where I had (or should I say wanted) to do this. You just need to make sure that the gun will still cock properly. On a Marlin, a protruding part of the bolt pushes the hammer down to cock it and then it should be relieved for the rest of the travel. I don't know how the Rossi works, but it should be a simple thing to fix one way or another.
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