I just got one can anybody tell how good are how bad they are. And well they shoot good :confused:

You tell us after you take it to the range...without knowing the Model, your experience, new or used, there's not much me or others can comment on...


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You tell us after you take it to the range...without knowing the Model, your experience, new or used, there's not much me or others can comment on...


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I have been shooting handguns for 20 years most of the time ruger sa and some smith wesson. i have had a kimder years a go This a 7.45 1911 thanks

Welcome to the forum. Rules are to play nice and not post anything you'd be ashamed to have a youngster see.

I think you'll like the Para. It is a perfectly good brand. I own a full-size one I bought as a 1911 frame kit. The fat grip for the double-stack magazine is a little thick for quick unholstering or concealment, but it spreads recoil out over the palm so well that .45 hardball winds up feeling like a .38 wadcutter load. Proabaly not fitted as well as your Kimber, but that's not certain and in some guns doesn't matter; they just shoot well anyway. Let us know how it goes?

Welcome -- I think you'll like that Para model...

I have a Para P16/40 (converted to 10mm) that I use for training and daily carry. As long as I do my part with preventive maintenence and not tinkering but staying with the designed specifications for springs, etc., this Para has been flawless after 5000+ (yes, I shoot it alot in training and with full 10mm loads)...


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thank you I have not shoot a 45 acp in lots of years.I got this for a good price

ken,

I haven't shot one of the P.O. 7.45's, but from my experience, I think it should be a fine handgun. I really like my 1911's, and I'm pretty picky about what I like too. I only have eight 1911's (or 1911 type pistols) right now, but I have shot a number of others. I would rank the P.O.'s near the top of the regular production 1911's out there.

Here are some pictures of the ones I have. Clockwise from top right: Kimber Stainless Classic LE, Kimber Pro Eclipse, Kimber Ultra CDP, and Kimber Stainless Covert. The last three are Custom Shop models, and are from the original limited production runs. All of these have internal extractors, and are not the "II's" with the external extractors.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d70/Gunslinger2005/oc04_025.jpg

Here are the rest. Clockwise from top right: Para Ordnance P13 Limited, Springfield Armory W.W. II GI, Para Ordnance P12 Limited, and Para Ordnance P14 Limited. All of the P.O.'s are double column single actions.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d70/Gunslinger2005/oc04_028.jpg


I wouldn't buy a 1911 with the external extractor. It wouldn't matter if it was from Kimber, or any other manufacturer. I just don't like them. Some purists might argue that the double stack P.O.'s are true 1911's. I won't get into that.

There are some other differences between the various makes. The P.O.'s have investment cast frames and slides. Some people prefer to have forged and milled parts, rather than cast, but from a practical standpoint, I don't think that most people could ever tell the difference. I would prefer to have forged and milled components, but a number of manufacturers use cast components and these haven't been a problem. Ruger is another manufacturer that uses cast parts, and not many people complain about those. The same thing applies to the MIM parts that Kimber, and others use.

Beyond that, there are a few other differences with P.O. pistols. P.O. uses ramped barrels with their pistols. These are designed so you can use wad cutter and hollow point type bullets. They seem to function fine from my experience. If you want to change barrels, however, you'll be much more limited in what's available. P.O. pistols are also what would be called "series 80" designs in that they have the firing pin safety incorporated into the slide. I prefer the trigger in the "series 70" designs, but most people would never be able to tell the difference. One other thing with the P.O.'s is that because of the cut profile for the rear sights in the slide, there aren't as many choices for replacement sights available for them.

Overall, I'm very pleased with the P.O. pistols I have. I think you'll be pleased with yours too.

Gents,

I have a LTC alloy frame, Commander length, that I am very happy with. It shoots wonderfully, and is less particular about what it shoots than the full sized Kimbers that I own. Also, that is a joy to carry realtively speaking, and extremely nicely balanced, this has made me a real fan of the Para's.

The double stacked guns are good guns, but they negate the prospect of "feel" for me, and are a shade too heavy, so I let them go by. As well the LDA options, I understand that marketing behind these guns, but the operational advantage of this system is honestly lost on me, and I don't consider it an advantage over the traditional 1911 system.

I think you will like these guns though, from what I have seen all are extremely well made, and real shooters.

Best to you fellows.

Steve

I just bought a Para P12 and I am pretty happy with it. From 10 yards I put a full clip through the gun everyone of them in the ten ring.