You think its worse than a 115 grain, .30 caliber bullet at 1250 fps?

I thought them Buffalo rifles were supposed to shoot to the next county.

But we aren't talking minute of buffalo here, we are talking sub- MOA with iron sights...
I'm shooting the 405gr. Laser Cast .459"..i nead to order some BTB, but which one? I think Dan444 shoots them..Maybe the 425gr., or just go big and get the 525gr.? :D

But we aren't talking minute of buffalo here, we are talking sub- MOA with iron sights...
I'm shooting the 405gr. Laser Cast .459"..i nead to order some BTB, but which one? I think Dan444 shoots them..Maybe the 425gr., or just go big and get the 525gr.? :D

Rowdy,

You're right. I bought a new 1895 (22", ballard) last fall. Didn't mess around, just loaded up one of Marshall's recommended loads: BTB .460"-425gr/H322/50gr. Went to the range & it shot one big ragged hole at 50yds. Haven't shot it at 100 yds, yet. That's all I did with it last year as the snow started to fly early. I don't know what velocity it's doing, but I think that it's zipping along pretty hot. Kills on both ends!

Dan

Rowdy,

You're right. I bought a new 1895 (22", ballard) last fall. Didn't mess around, just loaded up one of Marshall's recommended loads: BTB .460"-425gr/H322/50gr. Went to the range & it shot one big ragged hole at 50yds. Haven't shot it at 100 yds, yet. That's all I did with it last year as the snow started to fly early. I don't know what velocity it's doing, but I think that it's zipping along pretty hot. Kills on both ends!

Dan

Thank you Sir; ;)

I'm going to work up to your load, as my sholder is not ready for that load yet...

danny

Wind and rain, rain and wind. Like Forrest Gump said. Thar was all kinds of rain. Big drops of rain, tiny drops of rain, sideways rain, and rain from the bottom. That is about what it was this weekend. Got a little shooting in Friday evening. Hope this week is better..

Just got me a big ol box of 32 mag bullets for the 1894CB, gonna get busy loading a dose of whoop a$$ :D :eek:

What kind of bullets did you get?

What kind of bullets did you get?

Hornady 85 gr XTP's :D Those babies shoot out of my 32 mag. It one rabbit killing machine, better do head shots though, cuz it cleans and skins em other wise :eek:

I wish I had known you liked those, I just threw out a couple boxes of them cause they don't shoot in my 32-20.

JK, about throwing them out but they don't shoot as well as the 100 XTPs or 100 grain Speers for me. I got a new .32 Long revolver I will try them in.

Have you tried any cast bullets?

I haven't shot any cast bullets yet. I have some that I got from Oregon Trails but have not worked up a load yet. The load I use for the 32 mag with the Hornady 85 gr XTP is 11.0 gr of Lil'Gun and it is a real tack driver.

It wasn't very productive though. I went with the Win 94 30/30 with three different loads to try out. I'm still looking for that magic one. I tried three different powders with the same Lee C309-155-FN. None of them were any good or an improvement over my old load. Shot 8 targets of 5rds each and shot another 40 offhand at the plates. All the targets went into the trash can. I'm gonna get mad one of these days and dig out the 25-35 and the 250 Savage but I don't want to discourage the .444 shooters so early in the match! :D :D

Watch it Mike or I will just have to slap you fellers with the same gauntlet I did last year. ;) Remember?????

Watch it Mike or I will just have to slap you fellers with the same gauntlet I did last year. ;) Remember?????
Ok Ok I learned a lot last year, my rookie year at the PM.
Most important I learned if you get lucky with a target or two enjoy your couple of days in the sunshine because somebody's gonna send in a real target and swat you!! :D But that also can work both ways!! :D

Ok Ok I learned a lot last year, my rookie year at the PM.
Most important I learned if you get lucky with a target or two enjoy your couple of days in the sunshine because somebody's gonna send in a real target and swat you!! :D But that also can work both ways!! :D

Ain't it da truth?? :D The only reason I think I won in my competition is that the dreaded Dr. A. was too busy to compete. ;) He beat a lot of us out at the last minute in past years. I think he stays busy shooting gazillions of targets and then sends the best in during the last days of the PM. :D
Dave :cool:

Matches, Prizes, and Statistics updated.

That’s some fine shooting Ken, did you wave at big medicine on your way by… ;)
I do have to ask this, while shooting that .420” group…


Were you wearing those new “competition flip-flops” we spoke about earlier… :D

Thanks Ranch Dog.

Dang Ken, that is a nice group, now we have something to shoot for :D

Dang Ken,

Are ya' starting with that less-than-half inch-stuff already? Making it tough for us normal guys to get even a fleeting moment at the top. :p
Dan

Wow Ken! I guess I'll have to screw more scopes on and try for the scoped offhand! That's all that's left for a normal shooter. Great shooting! :D

I'm buying new flip flops too! :D

I've been waiting all day for Mike to post. I wanted all four I know will beat that .420 lined up in a row. :D

Like I said earlier. That's about the best I can do and I have no intention of shooting 2,000 rounds of 32-20 off the bench again like I did last summer.

I'm going to work with my home cast bullets and shoot offhand. Maybe make another run at it towards the end.

Did I miss a stupendous .35 Rem score? Big Medicine shot a fine target with his but it was already up there...

Also, kudos to Beartooth bullets. The .420 group was shot with Marshall's 115 grain 32-20 bullet.

Also, kudos to Beartooth bullets. The .420 group was shot with Marshall's 115 grain 32-20 bullet.
Congratulations again Ken but watch out, Rowdy probably has several targets in the .30's and several in the .20's waiting in the wings to send in as he needs them! I just know he does! :D :D

Congratulations again Ken but watch out, Rowdy probably has several targets in the .30's and several in the .20's waiting in the wings to send in as he needs them! I just know he does! :D :D

Yep, I don't trust that Rowdy no further than I could throw him. I heard he's from California. :eek:

Yep, I don't trust that Rowdy no further than I could throw him. I heard he's from California. :eek:

Gee thanks Ken :rolleyes:

"From" is the key word... :cool: left in 1971, but still return most years for a private Dove shoot... ;)

Good to see you back Mike Buchanan, you done playing sparky. The only targets i have going to Ranch Dog are some CB's from last week...Those are my best,,,so far... :D

Gee thanks Ken :rolleyes:

"From" is the key word... :cool: left in 1971, but still return most years for a private Dove shoot... ;)

Good to see you back Mike Buchanan, you done playing sparky. The only targets i have going to Ranch Dog are some CB's from last week...Those are my best,,,so far... :D

I'm done playing sparky but they've got more projects lined up for old Dad and Mom's on their side so I'm in trouble! Between the holiday, the remodeling at daughters and Shad fishing starting soon it's going to be difficult to get any targets shot. I mailed some today to help fill out the bottom of the standings listings! Shoot straight! :D

30's dipping into the 20's at night and windy to boot! Definitely not flipflop weather. :( I hope somebody gets some decent weather to punch some targets! :) I think when time permits I'll stay inside and reload instead! :)

Cold, windy & snow flurries here too Mike. I spent part of the day casting bullets. I was going to wear flip-flops while casting but was afraid my feet would have gotten cold so I wore the usual high boots. I may cast tomorrow too and then probably wrap up the operation until next winter, Lord willing.

You ought to see Mike's casting set up, its a regular bullet factory

Our Easter cold snap is right on schedule. It's supposed to be in the upper twenties the next couple of nights.

After that, no more cold weather. Yay! :)

I shot a one-holer! Then I took a second shot...

Just got in from some preliminary shooting, and I think Team Far Farty Far is gonna be running scared... After they factor in some mitigating circumstances:

1) You know how it's calm in the eye of a hurricane? Well I'm as far from any hurricane's eye as I can be.

2) I (possibly) lost count while pacing off my range, and I (possibly) counted the last 20 yards twice.

3) The duct tape on my scope mount needs tightening.

4) The cat was warming his nose on the barrel. Jerk. (He coulda TRIED to hold still.)

5) There was a big earthquake in the Solomon Islands the other day, and some aftershocks must have been jiggling my targets.

6) I was feeling so badly about the crushing blow I was going to deal to Team .444's self esteem, that my vision was blurred with tears of pity.

7) Space. Madness.

8) I'm shooting old factory rounds today, and I'm pretty sure it was "Floor Sweepings Day" in the powder room.

9) I was DRUNK! (On love. For a certain someone's flip-flops. Are those Calvin Kleins?)

10) My panties were riding up.

I'm impressed and rolling around on the floor but be careful it's a long time until September and you don't want to use up all your excuses. You gotta remember there's a rules committee out there that will probably disallow several of them too!! :D :D

Our Easter cold snap is right on schedule. It's supposed to be in the upper twenties the next couple of nights.

After that, no more cold weather. Yay! :)

Thats our prediction too. I thought Georgia was south of Pennsylvania and it was always flipflop time??? :confused:

The weatherman said this morning that an inexplicable burst of hot air, in the vicinity of Manitoba, was forcing cold arctic air into the Southeast U.S.

Cold, cold, and getting colder here. If the wind isn't blowing 100 mph tomorrow I'm going to try and go shoot anyway. Need to load up some whoop a$$ for the 32 mag and see if I can knock Ken out of the cat birds seat... ;) Too cold for the match flip flops though.

Way to go zen, I’m impressed. :D I give that about a 6.63954 out of a possible 10. Another year or two and you will have it kicked. You would have scored higher, but for the two critical boo-boos…
First – you need to submit your targets before you can make excuses for them, ya fallow the logic…
Second – you can’t use excuses used by another member OK…Number 10 is and always has been VTDW’s… :cool:

What a beauty day 70F, me and the trip-4 at the range, it don’t get any better that that, even shot a couple of targets that’ll make ol KenK squirm a little…

even shot a couple of targets that’ll make ol KenK squirm a little…

The thing is, you aren't taking into consideration my "plan". ;)

April 6 and it's warmer in North Idaho than West Central Georgia. The end is nigh I tell ya'.

The thing is, you aren't taking into consideration my "plan". ;)

April 6 and it's warmer in North Idaho than West Central Georgia. The end is nigh I tell ya'.

Your plan, ah-so like seeing the "big picture" now i got it... :D

I thought Ranch dog couldn't accept targets shot in temps less than 75 degrees, something about the cold target paper shrinking and making the groups smaller??? I thought that was how the flipflops tied in with the PM shooting? :confused: :confused:

Your plan, ah-so like seeing the "big picture" now i got it... :D

No! It is more like "thinking out of the box", a new paradigm, if you please. It's really a zen thing, become one with the rifle.

No! It is more like "thinking out of the box", a new paradigm, if you please. It's really a zen thing, become one with the rifle.

I hope it works out for ya Ken.. :confused: We always called it "being in the zone"... I have tried that "Yin/Yang before, but it gives me gas.. :D

I just checked the weather, the predicted low for Sunday moring is 21 F. The record low, set in 1950, is 28 F.

I don't guess I will be shooting or casting much this weekend. Plus, my wife is gone to Florida to visit her family. I may freeze. I'm not sure I know how to operate the heat. Mike!!!!!!!!!!!

I just checked the weather, the predicted low for Sunday moring is 21 F. The record low, set in 1950, is 28 F.

I don't guess I will be shooting or casting much this weekend. Plus, my wife is gone to Florida to visit her family. I may freeze. I'm not sure I know how to operate the heat. Mike!!!!!!!!!!!
It's double time on Holidays! I thought all bean counters are working 24/7 this time of year?

That be a good service- call Mike :)

I bet the peaches won't like that 21 F :eek:

I bet the peaches won't like that 21 F :eek:

I'm ashamed of joking about it now. If it gets as cold as they predict farmers are going to be hurting all over this area. Supposed to freeze all the way to the Florida line.

I'm ashamed of joking about it now. If it gets as cold as they predict farmers are going to be hurting all over this area. Supposed to freeze all the way to the Florida line.


Did I hear the words "Global Warming"?? :confused:

I just loaded up 40 rounds for 38-55 with the RCBS 375-250 FN. I just know there has to be 5 or 10 rounds in there that will at least scare the .444's. Now if we just get some spring weather! :D

No shooting today, it has to be in the single digits with the wind chill. The wind is blowing...well you know like what...out of the North at 15-20 MHP.

No shooting today, it has to be in the single digits with the wind chill. The wind is blowing...well you know like what...out of the North at 15-20 MHP.

My Buddy and I were wondering what it was going to be like to mow the lawn while still having the snow plow on the front of the tractor??

My Buddy and I were wondering what it was going to be like to mow the lawn while still having the snow plow on the front of the tractor??

I told a friend yesterday that I needed to mow, but it just isn't right wearing a parka to mow.

I told a friend yesterday that I needed to mow, but it just isn't right wearing a parka to mow.

I'll Say!!! :(

I shot a couple of targets this afternoon just because I needed to shoot something. Way too windy.

Anybody watch any of the Masters today? If Tiger only shot par on Saturday, you know it was too windy to shoot. :)

No shooting for me, the NRA guys have the range to themselves today…But I did get the garden tilled and the salad greens planted…

Also got my new sights installed for the 444 XLR, just though you’d like to see what you’re going to be shooting against, see the brass receiver sight, you are doomed… :cool:

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k114/Rowdy_444/000_0131.jpg

danny

Is that one of those Skinner sights? Figure out a good way to mount a globe sight on there. I've looked all over and can't find anything I think will work without machine work.

Is that one of those Skinner sights? Figure out a good way to mount a globe sight on there. I've looked all over and can't find anything I think will work without machine work.

I got his front sight also.. ;)

No shooting for me, the NRA guys have the range to themselves today…But I did get the garden tilled and the salad greens planted…

Also got my new sights installed for the 444 XLR, just though you’d like to see what you’re going to be shooting against, see the brass receiver sight, you are doomed… :cool:

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k114/Rowdy_444/000_0131.jpg

danny

Look at that green grass and those flip flops and the swamp Collie!!

I'm not skeered a bit though! I'm just gonna wait until spring comes, catch some shad in the next month, then dig out the Winchesters and Savages and go to work!!

Seriosly though I like the looks of the gun and the dog!! :D

yeah, the gun & the dog look pretty good.

Dan

Well, we ought to have some Georgia Peaches this year. The hard freeze turned into a light frost.

Got bullets cast and shot a couple really sorry targets.

I thought I had ol' Whip knocked off the top spot for the open sight offhand lead this afternoon. I had four holes right in the goody. I was looking to see which one had two shots in it when I noticed the fifth one in the lettering on top. :(

yeah, the gun & the dog look pretty good.

Dan

:D He's just not gonna get any respect here is he? :D :D

Howdy fellas,

I just finished reading 21 pages of this thread...Now its time to see if I can take the offhand scoped title away from Mike B this year :D Hope to see some more shooters in the offhand scope class this year!

Besides the 45-70 this year, Ive got a 44-40 Century LTD thats showing real promise in both the unscoped categories, a 375 Marlin that really likes the bench scope category, and a 356 Win that is just beggin to silence those 444's!! :D

Good Luck and good shootin'
johnny

Howdy fellas,

I just finished reading 21 pages of this thread...
johnny

We are good at trash talkin arnt we :D What we really need is 21 pages of scores to look at.

"Besides the 45-70 this year, Ive got a 44-40 Century LTD thats showing real promise in both the unscoped categories, a 375 Marlin that really likes the bench scope category, and a 356 Win that is just beggin to silence those 444's!!"

We fo-foty-fo boys is jest a waitin for someone to submit a target good nuf to git us goin. ;) Heck, we'uns jest mite submit our top 21 targets each and silence the whole derned bunch a ya. :D Onliest reason we ain't done it in yars past is ta keep up tha interst in tha match.

Dave :cool:

Now there is some fight'n words from VTDW. The only come back on that would be a personal attack and we don't do that here, except when it's directed at the flip flop wearers with painted toenails. ;)

Keep it up guys and please try to get others on these forums to shoot! Standings updated.

A nice 100 yard target by Farmboy. I didn't know a .45 Colt could fling a bullet a hundred yards.

Where's the Brownings?

KenK,

Who said the bullets have to reach the target on the fly. Maybe those 45 Colts ricocheted into that great group.

And, we really know about Brownings, don't we?

50 Degrees! It was too nice, I snuck off and went to the range at 11:00. Grabbed the 300 Savage and went to the range. Shot for two hours and ended up with a couple of keeper targets! Also got one to start off the scoped bench match. Got back to the office in time to mail them to Ranch Dog! Probably gonna be awhile before I can shoot again so it felt good to get out! :) :)

50's too cold to actually wear the flipflops! :D

Nice shooting, Mike. What mould did those bullets come from?

Nice shooting, Mike. What mould did those bullets come from?
Lee C309-150-F
They aren't really designed for the 300 Savage But I shoot them seated to an OAL of 2.475 and tumble lubed. They look funny but the gun loves them. The gun has an old Tasco 4x which I don't really like and I'm changing but I almost hate to the way it's shooting. It's actually a buddy's gun who has loaned it to me with permission to do what I want to with it. I was working up loads with it last September for the PM when Rowdy put me in the hospital! :D :D

I'm starting my 30-30 cast bullet program in exactly one week. I should be finished in time to use the 336XLR for a tomato stake if need be.

A nice 100 yard target by Farmboy. I didn't know a .45 Colt could fling a bullet a hundred yards.

Where's the Brownings?

I was glad to see Farmboy's target and see a fellow who isn't scared to chuck a piece of lead that far! Good on him!!!

"Where's the Brownings?" Where else, tucked under the bed, scared!!! :eek:

I've been working hard and heavy on some pressure trace stuff and then I'm going to turn the Marlin's out for my turn at the prize!

I'm starting my 30-30 cast bullet program in exactly one week. I should be finished in time to use the 336XLR for a tomato stake if need be.

At least the SS finish should allow it to serve two years as a stake!

Way to Mike, maby you give Rowdy a heart attack ;) Those are good targets.

I'm starting my 30-30 cast bullet program in exactly one week. I should be finished in time to use the 336XLR for a tomato stake if need be.

You need to try the Lee C309-150-F with 35.0 grains of H414. One of mine likes it.

I am in the process of prepping brass for the match, I think I am going to mess around with benchmark and see if i can find a winner. This batch of brass has the worst primer pockets I have ever seen

from Mike Buchanan . . . "50 Degrees! It was too nice, I snuck off and went to the range at 11:00. Grabbed the 300 Savage and went to the range. Shot for two hours and ...."

He would have gotten away with it too except he forgot to remove his hearing protection muffs and walked into the office wearing them. No more long "lunch hours" for him in the forseeable future. Sad, isn't it?

Great shooting Mike… big medicine startin to feel the pressure already…I’ll help you out big medicine, here pull my finger… :p

OK, I finally got out last weekend and put some holes in targets for the match. Turned out some decent groups with the 358 Win BLR. At least Browning will be on the board for awhile. The 300 Savage did OK as well, but even at 50 yards, I have trouble with that size target and peep sights. The targets will be in the mail today.

Wait till my buddies 99 in .308 gets shot off the bench. It is a little gem. I think I have a better off hand and bench target coming for the little 44 mag too. Man, this is too much fun. I will pick up some flip flops at the Dollar Store before shooting.

Wait till my buddies 99 in .308 gets shot off the bench. It is a little gem. I think I have a better off hand and bench target coming for the little 44 mag too. Man, this is too much fun. I will pick up some flip flops at the Dollar Store before shooting.
Chief, What is it about the flipflops? Do they help you get into the right mood?? Maybe get your biorythms in line? :D :D

I just believe that once a presidence is set that it should be adheared to.

Stopped in at Gander Mountain fully intending to take the plunge and buy a Mosin and some ammo. Walked by the rack and this little 336 which looks like new jumped into my arms. Gotta mount a scope and I've got another 30-
30 project gun for the PM.! :D :D

I forget the formula for date of manufacturer???

You are going to like it much better than the Mosine.

You are going to like it much better than the Mosine.


I 've got a question for the Marlin experts. According to the serial # this gun was made in 1976 and it says "Micro groove Barrel-Mod.336". The wood and fit and finish I actually like better the some of the new ones I've handled. Does the micro grooved barrel bode well for me and my cast bullets or not???

I will pick up some flip flops at the Dollar Store before shooting.

I can't believe I forgot to tell ya'll this. :rolleyes:
When it's too cold for the flip flops, I shoot in my flannel pajamas and bedroom slippers.

I can't believe I forgot to tell ya'll this. :rolleyes:
When it's too cold for the flip flops, I shoot in my flannel pajamas and bedroom slippers.

Open toed and fuzzy?

I can't believe I forgot to tell ya'll this. :rolleyes:
When it's too cold for the flip flops, I shoot in my flannel pajamas and bedroom slippers.

Ken,I like the one ,where u shot the deer off your backporch while wearing a bathrobe, better..That's a goodun :D

Ken,I like the one ,where u shot the deer off your backporch while wearing a bathrobe, better..That was a gooden :D

You have me confused with someone else. I don't own a bathrobe. I have shot a couple in my skivvies. :D

Finally got my XLR to shoot, see that 2 weeks in the closet with a For Sale sign on it really works…Last week I even went so far as to threaten to kick-it for being so butt-ugly. But that didn’t work…Skinner Sights $45.00 going to order a couple more… :D

Ken shooting deer in his BVD’s…What’s wrong with this picture??? :eek:

That's a coincidence. I shot my XLR this afternoon. Got a 2 1/4" group at 100 yards with my best load to date.

That's a coincidence. I shot my XLR this afternoon. Got a 2 1/4" group at 100 yards with my best load to date.
:eek:

Already sent in the target Ken, i'm saying sub .890" and with a new load, i think i can make it work...BTB 290gr at maybe 2000 fps :)

sub .890"

Group size or postal match score? Distance?

I've got 15-20 more of the jacketed loads to get rid of and I'm going to start with the cast bullets.

I've got a 30-30 XLR that hasn't shown too much promise in the accuracy dept. It's the only Marlin of mine that wears a scope but my older 336A will outshoot it in spite of the aperture sights. I have not fired the XLR recently and now I learn that it should have been placed in a dark closet as punishment for poor performance.
Friday night is the last night for the indoor bullseye league we shoot during the winter. After that i get serious about kicking the posteriors of you young guys. And yes, to me VTDW is included with the young guys. Wish me luck?

Good luck Steelbanger :)

Ken;postal match score, open sight bench. :cool:

Steelbanger, I wish you good luck. FWIW, my 336XLR shoots slightly less crappy with the Sierra 125 grain bullet and a full dose of 748.

Rowdy, that would be a pretty good score if you were shooting a Browning. I think it needs another spell in the closet. I can see, perfectly, mine holding up a tomato plant.

Steelbanger, I wish you good luck. FWIW, my 336XLR shoots slightly less crappy with the Sierra 125 grain bullet and a full dose of 748.

Rowdy, that would be a pretty good score if you were shooting a Browning. I think it needs another spell in the closet. I can see, perfectly, mine holding up a tomato plant.

I'm dating myself but watch out for Rowdy, I think he's an expert pinochle player and in that closet he's also got some trump targets! :D :D

"And yes, to me VTDW is included with the young guys."

Flattery will get you no where dude!!! :D

Dave :cool:

I'm dating myself but watch out for Rowdy, I think he's an expert pinochle player and in that closet he's also got some trump targets! :D :D

Nope not me Mike. Ken and I spoke of this last year and agreed not to holdback targets. ;)
Big storm is moving in, guess I’ll reload this weekend.
I need to order 444 brass, maybe nickel plated for the XLR. I shoot nickel in the 22 Hornet and 30.06, but only neck-size them…In the 444 or 45/70 is nickel- plated brass any harder to full- length resize???
Looking at my new tomato stake, ought to last for years, being stainless and laminate.. :D

danny

Rowdy, your memory is too good. I will have to send in that target now.

I 've got a question for the Marlin experts. According to the serial # this gun was made in 1976 and it says "Micro groove Barrel-Mod.336". The wood and fit and finish I actually like better the some of the new ones I've handled. Does the micro grooved barrel bode well for me and my cast bullets or not???

To answer your question, yes, microgroove does just as well with cast bullets. I've got an 1894 .44 mag also made in '76 from a pawnshop. It was a total rebuild/refinish project, but after stripping off the yellowing varnish the previous owner had put over the Marlin factory finish I found the wood to have a little nicer figure that todays standard, even has one birds eye in it. It is also an accurate shooter, one that I use for hunting as well as for cowboy action shooting.

I know I'll catch some corrections on this, but I swear that even though the barrel is stamped MG, looking at the rifling itself it is ballard type.

Rowdy, your memory is too good. I will have to send in that target now.

OK.. Ken :rolleyes: out with it, show us what we're up against...

It ain't worth taking a picture of. A 50 yard offhand target about half way between my current score and Whip's.

Shot another 2" plus group with the 30-30 just now. Wooo hooo! :mad:

This load was working better last summer, maybe it just needs to get hotter.

I see ALLEN COSYNS "a new member" is going to join us for some shooting fun.. ;)

danny

Nice 25 yard target!!!! :)

25 yards or 25 feet!?!?

Yeah, just how much flame retardant is that target soaked in, anyways? :p

I don't know if that is an April Fools target or not but I don't doubt Rowdy will shoot one that good for the match before its over and done with. Looks about the same as last years match winner.

Using wadcutters at 25 ft? I don't see any tearing at the edges.... ;)

Ken picked up on the scam right away...Top right-hand side is the date 4-1-07 April Fools Day...Going to pull that bogas target now... ;)

You took it Down?! now our posts don't make any sense

Do they ever??????? ;)

I got ten rounds of 30-30 left and I'm fixin' to go shoot them. I feel lucky, today is my favorite day of the year. :)

And then, the ol' XLR coughs up a target like this just to make me come back for more abuse. I gave the scope one minute of up just before I shot this target, chasing the POI. :(

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k191/KGKILBY/upload.jpg

Well the Hornady Leverevolution seems to shoot just fine out of my 1970 444. I think this target would be better if it were not for the friggin 20-30 mph wind I was trying to shoot it. Might have to get some more and shoot it. I only got one box because I wanted to see how it would shoot.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o239/big_medicine/DSCF0012pm444.jpg

Pretty good target Big Medicine. I haven't tried all that hard to get any of the gummy ammo but every time I'm at the gettin' place and think to ask for it they are all out.

I did get to cut the range today. It looks good. It will probably be grown over by the time turkey season is over and I get more ammo loaded. Maybe I will get some ammo loaded tomorrow. They say a storm is coming.

Nope not me Mike. Ken and I spoke of this last year and agreed not to holdback targets. ;)
Big storm is moving in, guess I’ll reload this weekend.
I need to order 444 brass, maybe nickel plated for the XLR. I shoot nickel in the 22 Hornet and 30.06, but only neck-size them…In the 444 or 45/70 is nickel- plated brass any harder to full- length resize???
Looking at my new tomato stake, ought to last for years, being stainless and laminate.. :D

danny
If you weren't part of that agreement can you hold targets or do I have to send em in as I shoot um?? :confused:

As far as I know, there is no rule about having to send in your targets before the end of the match.

My opinion, that I expressed last year, was that it would take away some of the fun of the match if people held targets to the end to play like "trump cards".

If I ever get lucky enough to shoot a target that would give you shooters some grief I would send it in the same day. Would love to see you sweat out the summer trying to beat me. And I'd stay home and sip lemonade, same as VTDW did last year.

If you weren't part of that agreement can you hold targets or do I have to send em in as I shoot um?? :confused:

It's your call Mike.. :)

Greetings...

I sure would appreciate no one holding back targets, at any point of the match or for any reason, as it only makes the work load more for me. I'm back home from work and will update the standings some time later today. I have updated the Prizes and Sponsor pages... check them out!

As far as I know, there is no rule about having to send in your targets before the end of the match.

My opinion, that I expressed last year, was that it would take away some of the fun of the match if people held targets to the end to play like "trump cards".


I agree with you. I also think you might get an extra day of glory early in the season because people are still shooting themselves into shape. :D

I was enjoying being the best 44 mag. It won't last long. You rifle cartridge guys should just wear us out but we do OK.

I'm back and I got a nice turkey last week had 4 beards weighted 23# had 1 3/8 spurs. got him with my 10g flinlock.I don't see any reason to hold back targets. I will have more time to shoot the middle of June. A friend gave me a 4 powder scope Can't wait to try it out. http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i274/tnwhip/100_1348.jpg

Nice bird Whip; :D

I'm back and I got a nice turkey last week had 4 beards weighted 23# had 1 3/8 spurs. got him with my 10g flinlock.I don't see any reason to hold back targets. I will have more time to shoot the middle of June. A friend gave me a 4 powder scope Can't wait to try it out. http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i274/tnwhip/100_1348.jpg
Nice Turkey! Tell me a story? That had to be a fun Hunt!

If I ever get lucky enough to shoot a target that would give you shooters some grief I would send it in the same day. Would love to see you sweat out the summer trying to beat me. And I'd stay home and sip lemonade, same as VTDW did last year.

Steelbanger, I bet you weren't shooting any targets today! I just hope you weren't shoveling snow! We didn't have to shovel any snow here but you had to hang onto your hat all day! I got to shoot last thursday evening and I was pleased with my new (old) Marlin 30-30. I think with a little work I'll have some more Marlin generated targets to send in. I was hoping to shoot some offhand targets with my old (1897) Marlin 1894 32-20 but after a couple of lousy targets the firing pin broke! The good part was I shot a couple of keepers with the .300 Savage to send in.
When is spring coming! I'm ready to get into fishing mode in addition to the PM but I can't with this weather! :(

Standings have been updated... It's time to end all the smart talk fellow Marlin Shooters. Mike B has taken the lead in both of the Scope matches with his Savage 99

Never underestimate a Pennsylvanian and his savage 99 (or win 94) (or 7600 .30-06 but that's not applicable in this case) Way to go Mike

That's a good'en.

I'm not real scared as I started with my worst shooter... the 218 Bee. I did beat Big Med and his Bee but his target actually has a better group.

I got targets going out today, nothing to beat that, but I'm working on it. Might have to get the 1895G fired up for the 100 yard match. Rowdy shot a nice target with his 444 for the open sight match. Looks like this could get serious from the get go..Should be an interesting year.

Come on JB and get the 32 spl in action.

I am working on it. Things are kind of busy around here right now, I had 2 meetings last night, 1 tonight and 1 tomorrow night, Softball practice Thursday, a veiwing Friday night and a softball tournament Saturday. The loads are coming, just in small steps. While we are talking about loads, how much should I reduce jacketed data for use with cast loads? I tried stealing Dr. A's secret recipe but it didn't go that well in my 32

You .444 shooters should just forget it and start looking for Savages! Just don't run the price up around here because I'm still looking for more! I'm mailing two more targets from the .300 Savage before I start working out with the 250-3000! :D :D :D


( Veteran PM shooters, am I doing this correctly? Gloating while I have a chance no matter how short lived it may be??)

Nice shooting, Mike.

I really like Ranch Dog's statistics.

I still don't see any Brownings. In the pie chart, Marlins are red, Winchester is blue and Savage is green. Hmmmm. I wonder what color that leaves for the Brownings. :D

Nice shooting Mike. That's a tough call with the gloating. On one hand you want to rub it in till it hurts but on the other hand you don't want to discourage we losers so much that we quit shooting. Then again, there is one group (CDXLIV) who still don't realize how LUCKY they were last match. I think they'll keep trying no matter what. Gloat away!!

Nice shooting Mike. That's a tough call with the gloating. On one hand you want to rub it in till it hurts but on the other hand you don't want to discourage we losers so much that we quit shooting. Then again, there is one group (CDXLIV) who still don't realize how LUCKY they were last match. I think they'll keep trying no matter what. Gloat away!!


I think I made a grave tactical error though. I started off with what is probably my most accurate Lever and got lucky and shot well for a time. I'm afraid it might be all downhill from here so I guess I'll enjoy it temporarily and keep trying for that one hole target load and gun. :)

Well, I have the next five days off and the weather is looking fine. Maybe I can get something done (besides yardwork).

My home cast 30-30 bullets are showing some promise. Maybe the XLR has found it's diet. I might just have to rig some good iron sights on it and make a run at the 50 yard match. It sure would pain me to see a .444 win it two years straight.

Nice Turkey! Tell me a story? That had to be a fun Hunt!
Well I saw this turkey and 5 hens and went after him. They came out in the evenings. I like that don't have to get up early. LOL I set up and he came out about 50 yards from me and started strutting and going away from me. He would not come closer. He and 3 hens stayed out from me for 2 hours. Just out of range. The next day they came out again 75 yards and fed away from me. No way would he or the hens come to my calls. I left them alone for 2 days and went back. A hen came out first, 10 minutes later 2 more hens came out and walked past me at 20 yards. Then here he comes strutting. At 20 yards I pulled the trigger on Bow, my perfect 10g Flint. aAnd when the smoke cleared he was a flopping. Just being at the right place at the right time.
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i274/tnwhip/100_1351.jpg

That is good shooting Mike. Be hard to beat.

I keep thinking I need to try that turkey hunting. We didn't get a good population in this country until I was grown and kind of got off hunting.

Is that your smoke house or privy? Nice, either one.

Well I saw this turkey and 5 hens and went after him. They came out in the evenings. I like that don't have to get up early. LOL I set up and he came out about 50 yards from me and started strutting and going away from me. He would not come closer. He and 3 hens stayed out from me for 2 hours. Just out of range. The next day they came out again 75 yards and fed away from me. No way would he or the hens come to my calls. I left them alone for 2 days and went back. A hen came out first, 10 minutes later 2 more hens came out and walked past me at 20 yards. Then here he comes strutting. At 20 yards I pulled the trigger on Bow, my perfect 10g Flint. aAnd when the smoke cleared he was a flopping. Just being at the right place at the right time.
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i274/tnwhip/100_1351.jpg
I like your gun too. It looks like a fun one. I have a .54 smooth bore flintlock which is really the same as 28ga. I like to take it out to the preserve with the dog and shoot chukars and pheasants with it. It is a hoot and I don't end up with as many birds to clean. :D Have you used yours for wingshooting?

I keep thinking I need to try that turkey hunting. We didn't get a good population in this country until I was grown and kind of got off hunting..

Georgia State law prohibits; “the wearing of thongs while hunting turkeys”… :eek: That sorta leaves you out Ken.. :D

Check the standings, I had made an error with one of Rowdy's targets and then received a couple of other targets today that I have posted. I didn't re-post the stats, will do that again next Monday. I guess, I'm going to pull my 444T and get busy!

Nice shooting with the Browning, Jayhawker. :)

Mike yes, I hunt every thing with my flintlocks. The 10g is my turkey gun. I all so have 54 smoothbores flints. That is my main gun to carry. I hunt Doves, rabbits, squirrels, with shot and deer with round balls. I have even killed coyotes with it. For anyone that does not think a smoothbore will not shoot roundballs very well look at this target I shot at The National Muzzle loading shoot at Friendship Ind. a few years ago. 50yds off hand no rear sights.http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i274/tnwhip/100_0638.jpg

Mike Who Made your 54 smooth?

Nice shooting with the Browning, Jayhawker. :)
Thanks. I just got into one of those rare zones that day. I'm actually more proud of the off hand targets I posted with a Savage 99 (300 Sav). The rifle has a nice Marbles tang sight, but that front bead more than covers that small target, especially so at 50 yards. I had to line up the bead between two adjacent targets and hope I was close to the one I couldn't see.

Besides, I just had to get the Brownings on the board to silence the naysayers. Next time the Marlins are going out to the range though.

I've updated the match Standings, Prizes, and Sponsors. I'm really taken back by the support the match is receiving from Sponsors. There are 91 door prizes! Every target you enter is a entry in the door prize drawings. Only your best score (smallest) is used in the individual match standings. Certificates and active avatar links are awarded in each match for the top three places.Here is an example of the 2006 avatar which you can include in any forum signature block...

http://home.awesomenet.net/~ranch-dog/PM/IV/Avatars/AvatarOHSI.gif

If you own a levergun, I hope you will shoot!

Mike Who Made your 54 smooth?
Actually a friend of a friend by the name of Larry Landis. I liked it so much I had him build me a second. I'm in dangerous territory here because I'm really a rookie with black powder. Anyway if it means anything to you they have Getz barrels and Siler locks. Not sure about the spelling. I've killed two deer with the muzzle loader and missed more birds than I killed. I'm ok on basically away shots on birds but the closer it gets to a true crossing shot the better chance is with the bird! I think the guns are patterned after what they called trade guns and my friend and Mr. Landis shoot theirs without rear sights but I had him put ones on mine. They are amazing well balanced and a lot of fun to shoot.
That is some target! Now I know how you shot such a good group offhand for last years PM. You're good, I just got lucky!

Edited:
My apology to Whizzum330 who shot second place in offhand scope but really shot the better group last year. I was thinking it was you. But that's still good offhand shooting Whip !

I am so ashamed :( . There can only be one explanation for my targets from last year. I must have cheated :eek: . There is no way I could have shot the targets I did last year.
:D :D :D :D :D

Wow! What the heck happens between range sessions? I couldn't hit the side of a barn. I managed one open sight target and one scoped. These two targets are bad, but not embarrassing bad. My shoulder is literally sausage, and I don't have much to show for it.

I might just be shooting for door prizes this year. :p

I don't think this is going to catch anybody...but at least it is a try. This just ain't right with a Browning and a Savage in the lead...

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o239/big_medicine/DSCF0016pmv4570.jpg

I threw the flip flops away, and went back to combat boots :D

Thanks. I just got into one of those rare zones that day. I'm actually more proud of the off hand targets I posted with a Savage 99 (300 Sav). The rifle has a nice Marbles tang sight, but that front bead more than covers that small target, especially so at 50 yards. I had to line up the bead between two adjacent targets and hope I was close to the one I couldn't see.

Besides, I just had to get the Brownings on the board to silence the naysayers. Next time the Marlins are going out to the range though.

Don't forget the winnies!

Don't forget the winnies!

I think that should have been posted in the humor section.

Don't forget the winnies!

I think that should have been posted in the humor section.

You done stepped in it now. I hope Mike B. doesn't read this, I'd been hoping he forgot he had that good shooting 25-35 in the closet.

Actually a friend of a friend by the name of Larry Landis. I liked it so much I had him build me a second. I'm in dangerous territory here because I'm really a rookie with black powder. Anyway if it means anything to you they have Getz barrels and Siler locks. Not sure about the spelling. I've killed two deer with the muzzle loader and missed more birds than I killed. I'm ok on basically away shots on birds but the closer it gets to a true crossing shot the better chance is with the bird! I think the guns are patterned after what they called trade guns and my friend and Mr. Landis shoot theirs without rear sights but I had him put ones on mine. They are amazing well balanced and a lot of fun to shoot.
That is some target! Now I know how you shot such a good group offhand for last years PM. You're good, I just got lucky!

Edited:
My apology to Whizzum330 who shot second place in offhand scope but really shot the better group last year. I was thinking it was you. But that's still good offhand shooting Whip !
Mike that is a nice looking Flintlock. Yes I have been shooting off hand flintlocks for a long time. I have done it so long it is just natural. I build a few Muzzleloaders fron time to time. Here is one in the process now. it is a 54 rifle for a friend http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i274/tnwhip/100_1309.jpg

Mike that is a nice looking Flintlock. Yes I have been shooting off hand flintlocks for a long time. I have done it so long it is just natural. I build a few Muzzleloaders fron time to time. Here is one in the process now. it is a 54 rifle for a friend http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i274/tnwhip/100_1309.jpg
Nice, I see you have it bad! I bet you smell like sulfur! :D

Yea, you get use to it after a while. Keeps the bugs away LOL

YIKES!!!!

I read on MarlinOwners that Dr. A. said he is gonna break out his BLR!! We are all doomed. :D

That is OK though as Dr. A. was influential in starting me down the road to casting my own. I will forgive him this infraction of ethics. ;)

Dave :cool:

I threw the flip flops away, and went back to combat boots :D

If you do that, you will be doomed to deefeet.. :eek:

If you do that, you will be doomed to deefeet.. :eek:


The flip flops sure as heck we not working! ;)

I just shot this at 100 yards with my home cast bullets. It's sad to see a grown man cry, I'm glad ya'll weren't here to see it.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k191/KGKILBY/Lasttarget002.jpg

I just shot this at 100 yards with my home cast bullets. It's sad to see a grown man cry, I'm glad ya'll weren't here to see it.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k191/KGKILBY/Lasttarget002.jpg

Ken, I know just how you feel. I think it's somebody's law, don't know whose, but the way it works for me is that you have to suffer a certain amount before something good happens. Look at that target as getting some of the suffering out of the way! Good things are on their way! :D


I bet you'd vote for best 4 out 5 for scoring! I know I would! :rolleyes:

This is no BS Ken I was shooting my CB this morning at the range...At about 8:30 PDT I shot a target almost identical to yours, except my flyer was at 6 o’clock and just as far out…This is too weird, almost scary…
What was it, sunspots or maybe a shift in the earth’s magnetic field??? :confused:

Mike,

I like your "Best 4 out of five" idea. That would sure as heck make us all pretty equal eh?:D :D

Glad I'm not the only one....seems that every year I have a trash can full of targets like that. Who's ever rule that it is that there has to be a flyer...well they can just bite!! ;) I'm heading out to shoot this evening, I hope I don't have any of those to show when I get back, but I wouldn't bet on it :rolleyes:

What's really sad is that if you were zeroing in your rifle it would put one on top of the other until you get it where you want it then it starts throwing those flyers at you! Why??? :confused:

I was so sad I had to take a long nap this afternoon.

In this case the reason for the flier is not too hard to figure out. A clean barrel is the culprit. I had been working with my loads and was well pleased with the 1 1/2" or so groups I was getting. I started testing seating depths, cleaning every five shots. This target was a shocker.

The XLR tomato stake does seem much more consistant with these low velocity cast loads than it ever was with jacketed.

Bad thing is, I have about a half ounce of this powder left. Still, I've never had much problem going from lot to lot of powder.

Well, like I said....I wouldn't bet on it :mad: I was fighting 30-40 mph winds and considering that I'm ok with these two groups. Would have liked them better without the flyers.

44 mag 50 yards

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o239/big_medicine/DSCF0016pmv44mag.jpg

444 100 yards

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o239/big_medicine/DSCF0017pmv444.jpg

Well, like I said....I wouldn't bet on it :mad: I was fighting 30-40 mph winds and considering that I'm ok with these two groups. Would have liked them better without the flyers.

44 mag 50 yards

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o239/big_medicine/DSCF0016pmv44mag.jpg

444 100 yards

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o239/big_medicine/DSCF0017pmv444.jpg

You and Ken have so depressed me I'm not going to shoot tomorrow. Instead I'm getting up at 5 am and go fishing for shad instead! Maybe some fishing will help my biorythms and let me avoid my normal pile of bad targets.

Mike,
ditch the flip flops, and go to the combat boots....that's what I did :D ;)

Mike,
ditch the flip flops, and go to the combat boots....that's what I did :D ;)
It's finally getting warm enough to wear them!

Howdy fellas,

Got some 45Colt targets in the mail in the under 3" range scoped offhand!! :p Great day for shootin!! Didn't have enough time to play with all the toys, but it sure was beautiful in the Northeast today. :)
Can't wait till tommorow to break out some more of toys!!

Good shootin'
johnny

It's been a long time since I had fresh shad. Wonder if anyone here fishes for them!?

Count me in Steelbanger!!

Fish for them in the Delaware Water Gap.

Good shootin'
johnny

It's been a long time since I had fresh shad. Wonder if anyone here fishes for them!?

We use them for bait here.

Bait here too. I hear they eat the eggs in NC. I don't think anyone shoots them. Caught a 2 # Gizzard Shad in my cast net one time.

Bait here too. I hear they eat the eggs in NC. I don't think anyone shoots them. Caught a 2 # Gizzard Shad in my cast net one time.

LOL, The shad we fish for in the top of the Cheasapeak Bay in the Susquehanna below the Conogowingo (sp) Dam are Hickory shad and the occasional American Shad. The Hickory's aren't as big as Americans but when conditions are right there are a lot of them there. It is catch and release fishing only. They are about 14-20 inches and on light spinning and fly rods they are a lot of fun! A 14" Hickory shad will out fight a 20" Bass. Yesterday we had the best day we've ever had in 6-8 years. We have no way of keeping accurate count but the two us fiquire we caught a minimum of 125-150 shad. We fished from 7:30am to 4:30 pm and from 8:00 on we were almost constantly catching fish.
They frown on you shooting them or not releasing them so we settled on a cold beer and an open pit ham sandwich on the way out of town! What a great day! :)

I have shot a bunch the past five days. I'm thinking about growing some tomatoes and fishing for the rest of the summer.

I have shot a bunch the past five days. I'm thinking about growing some tomatoes and fishing for the rest of the summer.


We're only a month into the PM and I can't believe the pile of empty brass I have and the pile of lousy targets I've thrown away! I got lucky on a few but if you saw all the bad ones you'd think I forgot how to shoot!
Somebody out there please send in some offhand scope targets! Last year I think I sent in five out of the total of eight targets. It must be time for one of the .444's to open up a can of whoop ask! :D :D

Mike,
sent in I think 4 offhand targets with the 45 Colt...didn't get to the 45-70 yet

Good shootin' johnny

Mike, as soon as I can match your offhand score last year, with me shooting off a rest, I'll start trying some offhand.

It should be illegal to be as hard headed as I am. I've shot 200 cast bullets the last few days using lube I thought would work, lube I wanted to work. I got so frustrated yesterday I boiled all that stuff off of them and tumble lubed them with liquid alox. Loaded and shot five of them just now and got a 1.075" group.

Of course, everytime I think I have this rifle figured out it proves me wrong.

Of course, everytime I think I have this rifle figured out it proves me wrong.

Amen!! :) :) :) :)

It must be time for one of the .444's to open up a can of whoop ask! :D :D

Rowdy <--- searching for the large can opener… :D

It's still just too cool for good shootin'. I predict excellent scores when the temperatures start hitting 95 degrees.

On a sad note, the dog bit off one of the thongs on my fancy shooting flip flops. :mad:

Anybody know somebody who can make me a new pair of doghide shoes?

Rowdy <--- searching for the large can opener… :D


I have a confession to make. You guys shamed me into sending in the last two targets I shot with the .300 Savage. I was going to hold on to them and sandbag but when I found out the proper etiquette. I sent them in last week. I'm hoping they make you reach for a bigger can! :D :D

Ouch...Dr.A and Rowdy are clubbing us like baby seals.....

Did you notice that Dr. A's 30-30 336CB group is way above his norm. Watch out, he may try to sell it. Don't buy it! It's likely shot out.

David, although I warned the others not to buy your 30-30 I feel that as your friend I would buy it just to prevent your being stuck with it. That's what friends are for.

Best regards,

Ouch...Dr.A and Rowdy are clubbing us like baby seals.....

Steelbanger made me feel guilty two years ago, so I had alot of interference from home and laid out. This year is going to be painful for you Frank... :D The best from the Marlin is yet to come. ;) You'll wish you were a clubbed baby seal. Ya hearin me.??? :eek: :D :D

Dr. A,
Welcome back. We missed you and the level of competition you bring. I bet you have some folks nervous because of your reputation. I wonder though if you Kansas fellows can stand up and shoot. Time will tell.

With few exceptions senior citizens get special considerations. This match is one of the exceptions . . old folks here have to compete on the same plane as you youngsters. I'm not giving up though and hope to throw a scare into you shooters.

And I have a question too. Do we have an official Pennsylvania Team and am I on it? Mike Buchanan must be the captain since he's the best hope we have. What say captain?

Dr. A,
I wonder though if you Kansas fellows can stand up and shoot. Time will tell.

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TUSHAY! ;)

Dr. A,
Welcome back. We missed you and the level of competition you bring. I bet you have some folks nervous because of your reputation. I wonder though if you Kansas fellows can stand up and shoot. Time will tell.

With few exceptions senior citizens get special considerations. This match is one of the exceptions . . old folks here have to compete on the same plane as you youngsters. I'm not giving up though and hope to throw a scare into you shooters.

And I have a question too. Do we have an official Pennsylvania Team and am I on it? Mike Buchanan must be the captain since he's the best hope we have. What say captain?

I think you better make it the Big East Team. I think we'll end up needing all the help we can get!! :D

Note: Ranch Dog please check my targets. The last two I sent you should be one bench and one offhand. I hope I didn't forget to mark them?? Oh, if I did forget to mark them the larger group is the offhand one. :D :D :D

Ouch...Dr.A and Rowdy are clubbing us like baby seals.....

It aint over yet big medicine… :D

Dr. A I have a question for you sir…

We all know that Steelbanger is the president of the “Dr. A Fan Club” and I am curious, does he receive a monthly salary or do you pay him by the hour??? :p ;)

danny

Wow Rowdy, good shooting! You just couldn't let Ken have more than a few weeks in the limelight could you? :D
Good shooting too , Dr. A. If you're the Dr. A everybodys been talking about for a year, you wouldn't believe what all they've said about you! :D

Thanks Mike. :D

I don’t want to mention any names, but I think Ken’s been up here in the top slot partying it up….Empty Oly cans and cheesy-poofs all over everything… :eek: :eek: :D

It aint over yet big medicine… :D

Dr. A I have a question for you sir…

We all know that Steelbanger is the president of the “Dr. A Fan Club” and I am curious, does he receive a monthly salary or do you pay him by the hour??? :p ;)

danny


Frank just wants my gun. :D (336CB) He has offered to trade his inferior 336XLR.

Rowdy,

So you noticed that I have been especially nice to Dr. A? Have you also noticed that I usually end with a hint, plea, or even resort to begging him to sell me that 30-30 CB of his? Doggone rifle shoots under .25 @ 100!!! With cast bullets too. It ain't a salary I'm after.

Rowdy,

So you noticed that I have been especially nice to Dr. A? Have you also noticed that I usually end with a hint, plea, or even resort to begging him to sell me that 30-30 CB of his? Doggone rifle shoots under .25 @ 100!!! With cast bullets too. It ain't a salary I'm after.

I know nothing of his CB, I'm new, and Dr. A didn't shoot last year... ;)

OK thanks Dr. A :D

This will barely make it into the top five right now. Still, it is a legitimate 100 yard, 5 shot, sub moa group with my home cast bullets. Made me happy. :)
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k191/KGKILBY/Lasttarget.jpg

BTW, Happy Birthday Rowdy, dang you are old.

Now that I have the 30-30 working I'm coming after that 50 yard bench score.

This will barely make it into the top five right now. Still, it is a legitimate 100 yard, 5 shot, sub moa group with my home cast bullets. Made me happy. :)
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k191/KGKILBY/Lasttarget.jpg

I'll say! If that didn't make you happy you're in trouble. Nice shooting.

By the way I think you qualify for the Big East Team Right? :)


You shoot pretty good with only one flip flop on!

BTW, Happy Birthday Rowdy, dang you are old.

Now that I have the 30-30 working I'm coming after that 50 yard bench score.

Thanks Ken, the scores being updated today made for a nice birthday gift.. :D

An XLR duel, i like it...I was in shock when my XLR spit this one out; :eek:

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k114/Rowdy_444/000_0141.jpg

Thanks Ken, the scores being updated today made for a nice birthday gift.. :D

An XLR duel, i like it...I was in shock when my XLR spit this one out; :eek:

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k114/Rowdy_444/000_0141.jpg

Another Nice Target Rowdy! Happy Birthday too and don't give ARRP any money they're antigun! :D :D

You guys are making it tougher all the time. Now it looks I like You need a .444 Marlin, the right flip flops, and what is that, a Skinner sight??? :confused:

Mighty tough targets to beat. I may save my powder and bullets and just use my drill press. LOL Good shooting.

Mike,
go here for Skinner Peep Sights ;)
http://skinnersights.com/index.html

Mike,
go here for Skinner Peep Sights ;)
http://skinnersights.com/index.html

Rowdy, Thats a pretty niffty looking sight and reasonable too. Did you order the combination rear and front sight? I can't believe their price includes S&H. It's refreshing not to get surprize up yours charges!

I've been working with my 1895G as of late. I figure I'm going to take back the lead in the Bench-Scopes match to save Marlin's good name! Going to do it with a short barrel rifle too!

I've learned head placement on that sawed off carbine stock is everything. I also was reminded why we are shooting 5 bullets instead of 3. I though I had this one in the bag until shots 4 and 5! Oh well, I'm going to keep at this until I win. You Browning, Savage, and Winchester guys are in deep dooky! Just remember when I woop you, this is my pooriest shooting Marlin. I often talk about it's role on my ranch when I need a temporary corner post! That big fat barrel makes a good one!

Rowdy, Thats a pretty niffty looking sight and reasonable too. Did you order the combination rear and front sight? I can't believe their price includes S&H. It's refreshing not to get surprize up yours charges!

The board isn’t broken anymore… :)
Mike I got the set because of the Skinner Peep height, a new front is needed…I like the front cause it’s only 0.050” wide, compared to the XS which is 0.110”…

Ranch Dog, when might we see your mighty 444T put into action… ;)

I was out today but couldn't find the center of the targets. I'll send a few targets out to Michael because I'm sure he could use a good laugh. Rain tomorrow and weekend commitments so no more shooting until next week. Scoped rifle will be my next attempt at shooting a centered group. Got a new (to me) 336SS-LTD in 35 Rem and mounted a 2.5X Leupold on it. No dies here for that cartridge so my first attempts will be with Federal factory 200 grain loads and will also take the XLR out for some fresh air. It's been in a dark closet for three weeks now.

It sounds like it's going to be a great weekend to be shooting targets or fishing or turkey hunting. Good luck everybody and think about me who will be driving to my daughters place 2 1/2 hours away and spending my weekend setting the plumbing fixtures in her new bath and then playing sparktrician. Got my first grandchild a grandson on the way in June and management wants the remodeling done. They are showing no concern that it's Trout, Shad, and Turkey Season not to mention the PM match! :) Oh well, I just have to work extra hard on targets later on!

Ranch Dog, Please check the last two targets I sent in. I think you put my offhand in with the bench which would be OK except it's probably the best offhand 100yd target I've ever shot!! Thanks

Mike, I have your target pulled and will have to scan it once my wife is done with the printer. I will have it corrected in the next week standings. Sorry about the mix up and the delay of getting your fine target posted.

Rowdy, I'm saving the 444T. I've never given my 45's a fair shake and right now I'm shooting the heck out of both my 1895s as I produce some reloading charts for the boolits my TLC460-350-RF and TLC460-425-RF molds drop. I'm collected pressure trace data with each of these boolits with H4198, H322, Benchmark, H335, H4895, BL-C2 and Varget. I'm doing this both with the 45-70 and the 450 Marlin. It's a lot of shooting. I've gotten through H4198 and H322 with the 350 boolit and was starting on Benchmark when I had the rifle to PC cable fail. I ordered two more cables and decided being I wasn't going to work on this stuff, I might as well work on a "Postal Match" load for each boolit and powder. H4198 kept me occupied all day with the 1895G and I basically have nothing to show for it. I'm really enjoying the shooting for my boolit charts, it's teaching me a lot of things about the boolits, powders, and rifles.

I'm posting that data here:
http://www.gunloads.com/fam/ranchdogmolds/TLC460350RF/

Mike,

I went ahead and updated that Scope-Offhand score. Nice! Your target count in the Scope-Bench match will update to "5" on the next posting.

http://www.gunloads.com/fam/ranchdogmolds/PM/V/OHS/

Mike,

I went ahead and updated that Scope-Offhand score. Nice! Your target count in the Scope-Bench match will update to "5" on the next posting.

http://www.gunloads.com/fam/ranchdogmolds/PM/V/OHS/
Thanks! Sorry about being a pain but I really believe that's as good a target as I'm going to get. It certainly isn't my average target, something was lined up right with the moon or something! :D

:eek: You might have the only entry in the 100 yard offhand match this year Mike.

I shot four targets the past couple of days, I was real pleased with hitting the piece of paper 18 out of 20 times.

Rowdy, That's some target but I gotta warn you, When I get done with my projects at my daughters I'm breaking out the open sighted guns! Your birthday month will be over and you're fair game! I'm gonna do my best to put some pressure on you and Ken! ;)

(thought I try a little intimidation, are you skeered?)

Dang Mike,

1.3 offhand scoped!! :( I need to break out the 45-70 and get shootin'. I thought my sub 3" groups from the 45 colt were good. Dang!! I got 500 45-70's ready to go...might need to go and reload some more!!

Good shootin'
johnny

Rowdy, I'm gonna do my best to put some pressure on you and Ken! ;)

(thought I try a little intimidation, are you skeered?)

Short answer: no… But I do look forward to competing with you this year… :p
Beauty offhand target Mike that will give everyone something to shoot at for awhile…

Short answer: no… But I do look forward to competing with you this year… :p
Beauty offhand target Mike that will give everyone something to shoot at for awhile…

I'm betting it will last no more than 2 weeks!!
Whizzum will get one of his clusters to land on the right spot, or maybe we can get JB to air out his 32 spec. I know he can do some pretty good offhand shooting! And maybe steelbangers just waiting to see how good of a target he needs to shoot. :D

I got a bad cold last Sunday and had to miss work on Thursday and turkey hunting right now. I am very dissapointed. I do have shooting to look forward to next weekend. Man I love this PM!!!!!!!

Well another projeck out of the way LOL Ifinished the flinlock for my friend. Now I have a Colonial Trade fair to go to in Nashville next weekend then I have to start getting ready for My Rendzevous at my place Memorial day Weekend then I have our fishcamp to go to. Then I will start shooting the 444 some time the middle of June. I may even shoot some targets just for the fun of it with the 54 flintlock and show yall that these old guns can shoot if that would be alright with Ranch Dog?
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That is a fine looking rifle. You messed up on it though. Everything is backwards!

Looks good, Whip.
I guess I ought too give you guys fair warning, I was out with the 32WS today and I think I have a load to work with now, The targets weren't great, but I think I have someplace to start from. I'll see if I can't find a pair of flipflops and take a picture

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BTW, I am still learnin' how to operate these bloomin' iron sights

KenK yea my buddy is a lefty. Not thinking, If he had not sent me the lock I would have made him a right hand gun LOL.

BTW, I am still learnin' how to operate these bloomin' iron sights

Looking pretty good JB, are you using the original sights or a peep sight?

AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!! You guys are killing me....all this shooting and mailing targets. And your not leaving any room to get something inside those groups! Given my job and other nuisances in life, it won't be until Memorial weekend until I get to launch some lead. I'm reloaded for the following:

336SC - 219 Zipper
1894CL - .32-20
336C - .30-30
336A - .32 Win. Spl.
336CS - .35Rem
Marlin 444
Marlin 1895

Kinda' like all dressed up & nowhere to go.

Dan 444

I may even shoot some targets just for the fun of it with the 54 flintlock and show yall that these old guns can shoot if that would be alright with Ranch Dog?

Please don't mail them in, I have my hands full keeping the stuff that is supposed to be in the match straight! It might also open a flood of others doing the same as I get a continuous stream of email about "why can't I enter my automatic, bolt, and single shot guns".

Hey Whip, start a thread in the muzzle loading section and show some pictures of the guns and accoutrements you have made. You and Mike have me craving a flintlock shotgun.

Way to go! JB

I may even shoot some targets just for the fun of it with the 54 flintlock and show yall that these old guns can shoot if that would be alright with Ranch Dog?



I'm certainly curious! Can you shoot at some official postal match targets and post pictures of them here? Then you can show us whatcher talkin' bout, Willis.

I got my 100 yard bench and off-hand targets filled in and ready to mail in the morning. The off-hand target should put me solidly in third place, unless someone beats me to it. :D

Well another projeck out of the way LOL Ifinished the flinlock for my friend. Now I have a Colonial Trade fair to go to in Nashville next weekend then I have to start getting ready for My Rendzevous at my place Memorial day Weekend then I have our fishcamp to go to. Then I will start shooting the 444 some time the middle of June. I may even shoot some targets just for the fun of it with the 54 flintlock and show yall that these old guns can shoot if that would be alright with Ranch Dog?
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If your friend doesn't take it let me know! That's a beauty! Is it smooth bore?

I am using a williams peep with the factory front bead, the front bead is what gets me, I am used to seeing the X in the center of the target under at least 9x glass. The front bead covers the whole stinking bull:eek: I have found that I can make a figure 8 with the bead and bull but it is still isn't the precision I am used to

I'm com'in to get ya now Big Med. Turkey season is over and I am ready to get this 44 offhand shooting better. I will move up in the standings. I have to get better. I can't get much worse.

Walked out of the house this morning to come to work and heard gobbling below the house, almost went back and changed into camo and got the shotgun

I am using a williams peep with the factory front bead, the front bead is what gets me, I am used to seeing the X in the center of the target under at least 9x glass. The front bead covers the whole stinking bull:eek: I have found that I can make a figure 8 with the bead and bull but it is still isn't the precision I am used to

You might do better with a post front sight, I know you would do better with an aperture front.

The biggest thing, I think, to shooting good groups with peep sights is to NOT try to line up the front sight in the rear. Your eye will do a better job automatically than you will trying to get it just right. Try to get your face on the stock the same way everytime, ignore the rear sight, focus on the target.

If the bullseye won't come into sharp focus you can make it do so by changing the size of the rear aperture.

If your friend doesn't take it let me know! That's a beauty! Is it smooth bore?
Mike,It is a 54 rifle. Sorry, He paid me a long time ago. He told me to build it bacl in 2003. He was in no hurry, he has pleanty of guns and I built him one back it 2000. Building my cabin has kept me from doing any extra work. I just build guns when i have the time. I don't build guns for a living. I only build one or to Muzzle loaders a year right now. When I get my cabin and shop finished and get moved maybe i will have more time.

I'm certainly curious! Can you shoot at some official postal match targets and post pictures of them here? Then you can show us whatcher talkin' bout, Willis.
Zenmonkeyman
yes, I will do that but it will be a while before I can. I will be gone till the middle of June. I will beback shooting the 444 and I will shoot some targets with my 54 cal flint rifle and 28g 54 cal. smoothbore flintlock and show you what these old guns can do.

Mike,It is a 54 rifle. Sorry, He paid me a long time ago. He told me to build it bacl in 2003. He was in no hurry, he has pleanty of guns and I built him one back it 2000. Building my cabin has kept me from doing any extra work. I just build guns when i have the time. I don't build guns for a living. I only build one or to Muzzle loaders a year right now. When I get my cabin and shop finished and get moved maybe i will have more time.
The reason I asked is I have a lefthanded son-in-law who I need to get interested in Black Powder & it is a pretty gun! :D

You might do better with a post front sight, I know you would do better with an aperture front.

The biggest thing, I think, to shooting good groups with peep sights is to NOT try to line up the front sight in the rear. Your eye will do a better job automatically than you will trying to get it just right. Try to get your face on the stock the same way everytime, ignore the rear sight, focus on the target.

If the bullseye won't come into sharp focus you can make it do so by changing the size of the rear aperture.

Don't forget the concentration too! JB it's like that softball you're hitting, if you're concentrating you can see the stitches on the ball as it is coming at you! Same thing with open sights!

Hey Whip, start a thread in the muzzle loading section and show some pictures of the guns and accoutrements you have made. You and Mike have me craving a flintlock shotgun.
I don't have time right now. I am busy packing. I will do that when I get back the middle of June. Everybody keep your powder dry. I'll Be Back.
P.S. I have several Flintlock shotguns I have built over the years. 4- 28g single barrels, 1-16g, and My 10g. 1-double barrel 20g flint, also have a orginial 1817 harpers ferry musket, and 3 old orginial cap lock double barrel that are shootable. One 14g.and two 12g
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You might as well sell those 444's. I picked the gun that's going to win the open sight classes today! It is a Savage Model 99 made in 1927 in the .303 savage Caliber. The bore is shiny and the brass and dies are ordered. I think I've got a good reciever sight located too! I can't wait to start shooting targets! :D

Speaking of .303 savages, is Violator22 shooting?

Did I scare everybody with the pictures of the old Savage or is everybody busy mowing their lawns???

That's a fabulous-looking gun, Mike!

My 99 is a .308 and it will be in the scoped division. I will not be shooting it untill July or Aug.

Did I scare everybody with the pictures of the old Savage or is everybody busy mowing their lawns???

Nope, didn't scare me at all. I've been busy shooting Pressure Trace stuff in my 1895G and 1895MR. I shoot "match" style in case I see something good but it is hard to concentrate on the target because of the need to monitor the cable connected to the gun, interface box, and laptop. I don't even look at the target until I walk down to set up new targets. I did get this little prize with 47.0-grains of Benchmark out of my 1895G with my TLC460-350-RF boolit at 100-yards. I will make a small adjustment to the crosshairs and then let you have it!

Nope, didn't scare me at all. I've been busy shooting Pressure Trace stuff in my 1895G and 1895MR. I shoot "match" style in case I see something good but it is hard to concentrate on the target because of the need to monitor the cable connected to the gun, interface box, and laptop. I don't even look at the target until I walk down to set up new targets. I did get this little prize with 47.0-grains of Benchmark out of my 1895G with my TLC460-350-RF boolit at 100-yards. I will make a small adjustment to the crosshairs and then let you have it!

That is a nice surprise! That had to feel good!