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dixie_shooter85
07-06-2007, 12:17 AM
hi there! i am new to this site and have some questions pretaining my rifle that i just aquired. its a Russian M91/30. issued, returned to the russain military, and sold as surplus. the round is 7.62x.54, an i was wonderin if there were any little details i should know about this rfle? any prone defects in the design.....advantages, disadvantages,
I have found that it is extremely accurate at the long distances, my has been zeroed in at about 350 yards, is it capable of anything further??
any info would be great!!
E. Amanda.
rt4567
07-06-2007, 01:46 AM
There are quite a few posts on this forum about this rifle, and I stumbled across a website once dedicated to Soviet-bloc firearms (don't remember the address, might find a link to it a makarov.com). There is a great book out by Terence W. Lapin called The Mosin-Nagant Rifle, it has all the info you will ever need on this gun. All the usual sources offer it, ie, Midway, etc.
Enjoy your "new" gun.
rt
P.S. -- Welcome to the forum.
m141a
07-06-2007, 05:43 AM
hi there! i am new to this site and have some questions pretaining my rifle that i just aquired. its a Russian M91/30. issued, returned to the russain military, and sold as surplus. the round is 7.62x.54, an i was wonderin if there were any little details i should know about this rfle? any prone defects in the design.....advantages, disadvantages,
I have found that it is extremely accurate at the long distances, my has been zeroed in at about 350 yards, is it capable of anything further??
any info would be great!!
E. Amanda.
Welcome to the Forum dixie!
You will find many knowedgable folks here, all willing to help you along with your questions.
The 7.62 x 54 is an original Russian design dating back to around 1891. Originally designed for the Mosin rifle, it was used throughout the Soviet period, and is still in use today, in maching guns and sniper applications, as well as in Milsurp sold here and issued in lesser nations.
Originally designed with a 210 grain bullet, it was changed to a 148, which is pretty much the standard today.
Cases can be brass or steel, which your will find many of the latter. most ammo was or still is corrosive, meaning is contains salts that, unless you clean the barrel and action well, with a solvent that will neutralize the salts [read soapy water] your gun will start to corrode internally.
As far as problems with the rifle itself, it is a robust battle rifle, built to withstand harsh abuse. The long lift of the bolt, along with the long action, take a bit of getting used to as compared to say a Mauser type action. Triggers tend to be a bit on the Creepy side, almost to the point of mush, but there are aftermarket triggers on the net that are crisp and are set up on a ball-roller design.
I personally owned an M38, the Carbine Version of the 91/30. It was accurate enough to 200 yards, but recoiled like getting hit by a Buick and it's trigger was like pulling on an old wire fence. it went to a guy who collected them, as it was minty, just not my cup-o-tea.
S&B makes non-corrosive ammos that can also have a hunting application.
Hope this info is a start, and have fun with it.
If you Google Mosin-Nagant, there is a copious amount of info out there.
jpattersonnh
07-06-2007, 07:49 AM
Hey Dixie, Welcome!
There is a big space in my heart for the 91/30. I love the balence, accuracy, and simplicity of the Rifle. I bought a couple of barreled actions a few years ago, found some "new" stocks online and bolts. Both of the barrels had been counter bored. These are miss matched misfits and both are a dream to shoot. You need to remember, they are not benchrest rifles, but military hardware. As Chris stated it is a very sturdy rifle. BTW, if you get the bug they seem to multiply in your safe. I gave my 1953 Hungarian M44(matching) to my oldest son & he is hooked. You will love it, a very good hunting rifle also. With 203 grain bullets it will take any game in the lower 48 at any distance if you can see it. Here are a couple of pics. Good luck, Jim
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/jpattersonnh/IM000273.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/jpattersonnh/M44.jpg
markkw
07-06-2007, 04:43 PM
JP is right, they will soon start multiplying like bunnies!
There are two standard rounds that used to be very common but the surplus ammo is starting to dry up and prices are going way up so buy as much as you can as soon as you can. Rumor has it, prices will be 75% to 150% higher come Sept.
Load 1 is the normal battle load with a 147gr steel core boattail bullet. Load two was usually used in machine guns but was also issued to rifle toters and that's the 174gr usually identified with a yellow tip. Yellow and silver on the tip means it's a heavy (174gr) match round, just silver is a 147gr match load.
If you've got a good bore & action you can expect excellent accuracy. Only thing I'll add to what was already said, you can find the diassembly instructions on-line, find them and pull the bolt apart and make sure it's perfectly clean. Many people don't remove all the cosmoline from the inside of the bolt and it can lead to safety issues.
BTW, Welcome aboard!
hailstone
07-06-2007, 05:08 PM
Try www.7.62x54r.net for information on the round and rifles.
TAWILDCATT
07-08-2007, 12:47 PM
the round is simular in power to /06.bullet is.312
if you reload do so and save.
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