Hi, Im new to the forums and Im sure these questions have been asked before by others so sorry for any repeat questions.

I have a Ruger M77 MK II .270 and try as I might to be happy with the gun as it is the trigger is just not cutting it.
The 6 or 7 pound factory set trigger is too much for my liking, and I believe it is causing me to jerk the trigger on some of my shots.

My question is should I have a gunsmith lighten the trigger pull weight on the Ruger Trigger or should I just get a new Timney Trigger which I have heard good things about? One reason Im considering a new trigger altogether is because I have heard some not so good things about the Ruger Trigger concerning "creep" and "over-travel" which Im sorry to say I know little to nothing about and am not sure if those might be effecting my accuracy as well.

So what do you think, Modified Ruger Trigger or a new Timney Trigger? Thanks much for any help.

Also would anyone know if the Timney Trigger for the M77 MK II requires any work to be installed or would I be able to install it myself?

Welcome to the forum Amateur. Rules are simple, be nice and join in.

If you look in the gunsmithing section you'll find directions to hone the sears on the Ruger Mark II. If your not comfortable doing this most gunsmiths don't charge a bunch to do this. Usually in the 50 dollar range.

Keep in mind that though you can get a ruger trigger down to 3 to 5 pounds you still have a non-adjustable trigger and may have some overtravel.

My advice is to spend a few bucks more and put in an adjustable trigger, either Timney or Rifle basix. They come with instructions for installation.

Thanks for the info. Im not comfortable with modifying the trigger myself and dont want to risk paying a gunsmith and still not being happy with the trigger so Ill probably go with the Timney.

Thanks for the info. Im not comfortable with modifying the trigger myself and dont want to risk paying a gunsmith and still not being happy with the trigger so Ill probably go with the Timney.

You won't be sorry. timney must be a good company, I just installed one on my left handed 30-06 Ruger m77 MkII and it is a joy to use. Can't wait to whip up a batch of Hornady's V-max 110 g. for it. Smokin. The trigger has almost no actual movement at all. Feels precise to me. Hope you like it.

I used the directions in the gunsmithing section of this forum and got the trigger on my sons 77MKII to feel better than the one on my older M77. It wasn't very hard at all. If you try it yourself and screw up you can always buy a trigger and have a gunsmith install it.

the ruger 77 mk II trigger is super simple, i had one in 25/06 and the trigger stunk so one day when i was at brownells i tried to get a timney and they were out... they recommended a dayton traister as an alternative( at the time it was less than half the price of the timney) i was skeptical but the gal at the front desk told me i could return it if i didn't like it. anywow, it worked out perfectly, really a top notch trigger. BUT, the trigger assy on the 77 mkII is so super simple that if i'd known i would have just worked over the factory trigger, it looks to me like it would be super simple to clean up and minimize the engagement.
don't sell yourself short, a good stone and a little patience and you might be surprised what you can do, after all it is simply a mechanical device... its not majic.
this brings to mind my buddy louie, he had a ruger bolt action .22 mag that had a horrible trigger, it absolutely stunk!! anyhow i told him to bring it over and i'd work it over for him... he did. it was rather comical, i took the action out of the stock, pulled the trigger parts off and stoned the sear. he was cool with that, then i got my dremel tool out and cut 2 coils off the mainspring and i thought he saw gonna wet his pants. i reasurred him that it would be ok then reassembeld the rifle. when he snapped that trigger off i thought he was gonna do cartwheels! he had no money invested in the trigger and i didn't even have enough time in it to finish a cup of coffee. be sensible about it but don't sell yourself short.

I didn't really care for the factory trigger pull. I ended up buying a Timney online and installing it myself. It took awhile to file down the right parts of the metal to get the perfect fit. I chose to do it all by hand rather than using a drill or similar tool to do it.

Basically I followed the instructions that came with the trigger and filed down where it told me to. I checked the fit quite often. In the end I have a much better trigger than the factory, it's adjustable and because I took my time there is basically no "creep" when you put on the safety. The safety engages smoothly and completely locks the movement of the trigger.

I have pretty much no previous experience doing something like this, but with some care and patience it is not too difficult.

I have a Ruger Mk II in 25-06. Had the same problem that you posted. I had gunsmith install a Timney trigger and set it at four pounds. Best $150 bucks I ever spent on a gun. I know without a doubt you will love your Mk II after you install a Timney.

Two reasons to go with the Timney-
1) The Timney is superior to the Ruger trigger even after the Ruger has been worked over, and
2) Should you ever decide to sell the gun or send it back to Ruger for service, etc. you can pop the Timney out and you will have no hassles. If you send back a factory trigger that has been reworked, they will replace it and charge you for it.

I know my accuracy improved with the Timney trigger. I am still not going to set any records yet, but the nicer trigger made my groups smaller.

I put a Timney in my MKII a few years ago. I have to just add that the modifications req"d are on the Timney, not your original trigger(in case you're not satisfied and want to revert back). Also, the new trigger spring was much too light of pull and I now use the original per the directions recommendation. My groups are now greatly improved with an included bedding procedure.

Do the Timney but go slow when you file the area for the safety to function.

langenc is absolutely right. When I was filing down the trigger to get the safety to fit properly I would file a little, then reassemble the rifle and check the fit.

When it was all said and done I had an excellent trigger and virtually now slop in the safety, it engages properly and the trigger does not move a hair when the safety is engaged.

Take your time and do it right!

I have a stock trigger on my new .280, a reworked factory trigger on my .25/06 and a timney spring and sear kit on my .22 Mag. I can absolutely, without question recommend the Timney setup over any other option. I haven't used any other brand so I can't comment on them.