--While browsing Wally World, I ran across one of those cheap .22 Mossberg rifles and decided to take one home. When I handed the fellow in sporting goods my FFL, he nearly panicked. First he handed me the usual NICS form to fill out. I told him that wasn't required with an FFL. So he called the manager for help. She wasn't sure what to do, so she called a couple more people up to help.
--The manager noticed my ID had a different address than my FFL. I told her the FFL was my business address for the shop and I lived a few miles away. More confusion.
--Two hours latter, things got straightened out and the manager carried the gun outside before handing it to me. Quite an ordeal. Now I understand why so many Wal-Mart stores have stopped selling guns. They're not up on their paper work.
--The last time I purchased a gun from Wal-Mart, they called me at home and told me the price had gone up on that model and wanted me to bring the gun back. I did go back and pay extra price but I kept the gun. What a mess. I could have made them honor their advertised price.
--Next time maybe I'll just call the distributor for a particular model. Wal-Mart may be cheaper, but there's always the extra hassles.

I still buy guns from Walmart, their close and their prices are good, but I sure understand the hassle part. I ran a small gunshop for a bunch of years and get quite a chuckle out of the employees that are trying to follow company procedures and appear to simply have no clue on how to handle the guns and paperwork. It's got to be distressing working there.

If I am not mistaken, that is one of the main reasons that most wally worlds don't sell guns anymore. Since training people to do the paper work and keep up on all details of firearm sales requires lots of time, (people quit, have to retrain etc etc), they lost too much money. And even with all the training, they still take forever to do the paper work. So, it is not cost efficient for all wallyworld stores to sell guns, thus we all lose out!

Lots of Walmart stores are still selling guns. Folks that work at them tell me it wasn't because of training or folks leaving that some stores stopped selling gun, but because certain stores didn't sell many guns and they would rather put that space to use selling stuff that makes more profit.

Our store here in Lewiston Idaho sells lots of guns and keeps a pretty good inventory in stock. They also sell a bunch of muzzle loaders and bows.

You ought to see the gun section at the Anchorage AK, Walmart.

Yes lots of them are still selling guns and lost of them aren't. I was told by the same folks that work there that they were constantly having to train people on how to fill out the forms for gun purchases because of people quitting.
I would presume that the store in Anchorage AK, would sell quite a few rifles, however our store in Southern Maryland didn't sell that many, because it was illegal to hunt deer with rifles, other than black powder.
I did manage to purchase a 22 rifle from them. From the time I walked in the store till the time I filled out all the forms, and walked out the store with manager ahead of me, it was well over an hour.
At any rate, the wally world here in Virginia does keep a well stocked supply of guns and ammo, and I am much happier now.

The reason that some Wal Marts have quit selling Guns is the same as the reason that many of their Fabric sections are being closed out. Just before the wife retired from Wal Mart this year they were told that a section must make at least $400.00 per square foot in order to keep that section alive. In other words the Sporting goods section must make $400.00 for each square foot of area it uses in the store.

In my favorite gun shop...it may take you an hour to get to the counter...usually after about 30 minutes you can be fondling a gun. Then, if things don't go right, it will take you an hour to get approval from the Colorado Bureau of Investigation.

BTW, my guy makes $10 per gun and sales more guns than anyone in W-CO (or so I believe) and more than anyone in the County.

Also, Walmarts won't sale a long arm to anyone, unless they are in an adjoining state...that law went away about 10 years ago.

Don't complain about the hour wait...my b-in-law lives in PRC (CA) and they have a 10 day, 2 week, or 30 day wait...I can't exactly remember, but it ain't right.

What would make you think that someone that works at Wal-Mart would know about guns or FFL's?
Chief aka Maxx Load

I worked at wal mart before, I know about guns and FFL's.

Mr. C,
You can really buy a firearm at WalMart cheaper than you can get 1 from your dealer or rep? It seems that buying from a wholesaler would be the cheapest way and quickest for a dealer.
Thanks for the information,
Greg

--While browsing Wally World, I ran across one of those cheap .22 Mossberg rifles and decided to take one home. When I handed the fellow in sporting goods my FFL, he nearly panicked. First he handed me the usual NICS form to fill out. I told him that wasn't required with an FFL. So he called the manager for help. She wasn't sure what to do, so she called a couple more people up to help.
--The manager noticed my ID had a different address than my FFL. I told her the FFL was my business address for the shop and I lived a few miles away. More confusion.
--Two hours latter, things got straightened out and the manager carried the gun outside before handing it to me. Quite an ordeal. Now I understand why so many Wal-Mart stores have stopped selling guns. They're not up on their paper work.
--The last time I purchased a gun from Wal-Mart, they called me at home and told me the price had gone up on that model and wanted me to bring the gun back. I did go back and pay extra price but I kept the gun. What a mess. I could have made them honor their advertised price.
--Next time maybe I'll just call the distributor for a particular model. Wal-Mart may be cheaper, but there's always the extra hassles.
Let me get this straight. You bought a firearm from w-mart. paid for it. They carried it out of the store for you. They call you at home and tell you they want more money or return the rifle? That you already paid for IN FULL? And you actually gave them more money? Not me!

Ditto! Theres no way I would have went back and gave them more money. Especially with all the hassle you had to endure.

That's just about as bad as our local convenience stores carding everybody for alcohol sales. Many stores will card people in their 60's and 70's! One manager who didn't card a 44 year old female lost his job of 14 years!
Just part of what the world is coming to. Too many rules, laws, commandments, etc. and not enough natural law.

That's just about as bad as our local convenience stores carding everybody for alcohol sales. Many stores will card people in their 60's and 70's! One manager who didn't card a 44 year old female lost his job of 14 years!
Just part of what the world is coming to. Too many rules, laws, commandments, etc. and not enough natural law.
I don't know who coined the phrase "common sense isn't so common" but it applies here. Same problem with all "no tolerance" rules.

Talking about paper work at Wall Mart, I heard today that they ceased to be POS (Point Of Sale) agent for the ODFW (Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife) in the last week or two!!!!!!, right before hunting season!

The reason that some Wal Marts have quit selling Guns is the same as the reason that many of their Fabric sections are being closed out. Just before the wife retired from Wal Mart this year they were told that a section must make at least $400.00 per square foot in order to keep that section alive. In other words the Sporting goods section must make $400.00 for each square foot of area it uses in the store.

Their new policy is brilliant. The Wal Mart by me no longer carries bicycle inner tubes (they still sell the tires though). Off topic, but proves that common sense really doesn't factor into the decision.

I liked WallyWorld a lot better back when they primarily sold US made products. Now it is hard to find anything there that isn't Chinese made. No doubt in my mind, WallyWorld is only concerned with the profit margin.

I liked WallyWorld a lot better back when they primarily sold US made products. Now it is hard to find anything there that isn't Chinese made. No doubt in my mind, WallyWorld is only concerned with the profit margin.

Just bought a new Black and Decker sander. Marked Made in China. So I guess we can't blame any of the Big or small stores , it's the Manufacturers that are taking the plants over there that are making the goods. Levi's, marked Made in Hondures. DelMonte canned fruit marked Product of Mexico. What is still manufactured in the USA? :confused: We are lucky here, as Wall Mart still sells guns in Arkansas, and at least the Marlins are still made in the USA.

I was talking with one of the gun counter folks years ago, and he said they were going to escort folks out of the store with firearms, for safety reasons. They will separate you/gun/ammo until outside the store. There was an incident at one of the stores some time ago. Did not get the details or verify.
The other thing that he told me was that Wal-Mart does retain a copy of the form, 4473, but also immediately forwards all transaction information to the BATFE. It amounts to federal registration. If BATFE shares the information with the Canadian Govm't, it's not violating the congressional mandate to destroy the info. It will always be available to both countries.
I don't think you regular dealers were required to do that even with NICS check. I don't have anything to hide, just don't care for the way they do it.
Idaho had a 14 day waiting period in the 70's, but not sure now. I buy guns new/used from folks I know.

Why a FFL holder buys guns from Wally is beyond me.

Why anyone buys guns there is a mystery. To save 20$ on an Express 870?? Or any of the other bottom-end guns they sell? 99% of the guys behind the counter don't have a clue. They usually carry 10 so different guns, few types of mounts and maybe a decent scope or two. Most are blistered packed junk.

For the extra 20, the gun shop will sell you what you need, not what they have. Know what it is they are actually selling you. Mount and bore sight the thing, and if its a good shop, remember your name.....

There is a small profit margin selling new guns. Why cut the throats of independent dealers?

Because guess where you go the first time you have a problem with it..........

Why a FFL holder buys guns from Wally is beyond me.

Why anyone buys guns there is a mystery. To save 20$ on an Express 870?? Or any of the other bottom-end guns they sell? 99% of the guys behind the counter don't have a clue. They usually carry 10 so different guns, few types of mounts and maybe a decent scope or two. Most are blistered packed junk.

For the extra 20, the gun shop will sell you what you need, not what they have. Know what it is they are actually selling you. Mount and bore sight the thing, and if its a good shop, remember your name.....

There is a small profit margin selling new guns. Why cut the throats of independent dealers?

Because guess where you go the first time you have a problem with it..........

I am just before ordering a CZ 453 Varmint .22lr. Wal-Mart sells it for $478. No dealer within 75 miles of me carries CZ. They can order them...the closest shop want $575 and the next closest wants $600. That is why I will order it from Wal-Mart. BTW: I don't classify the CZ as a "bottom-end gun".....

I am originally from MN and now live in CA and every Wally World out here stopped selling guns long ago.

The most of the ones in MN have also stopped, because they cant afford it anymore. :rolleyes: or don't sell enough.