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Ralph McLaney
09-23-2007, 10:17 PM
Check this out: Who is prohibited.

http://www.dontlie.org/prohibited.cfm

"Who is prohibited from possessing a firearm?
Answer: Under current United States law, 9 classes of persons are prohibited from possessing firearms:

1) persons convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding 1 year;
2) fugitives from justice;
3) drug users, or addicts;
4) persons adjudicated mental defectives, or committed to mental institutions;
5) unauthorized immigrants;
6) persons dishonorably discharged from the Armed Forces;
7) U. S. citizenship renunciates;
8) persons under court-order restraints related to harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or child of such intimate partner; and
9) persons convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence

(18 United States Code § 922(g))."


"While it is legal to purchase a firearm as a gift for another, it is illegal to purchase a firearm for someone prohibited by law from posessing a gun."

m141a
09-24-2007, 03:34 AM
While I am truly not sure of the point of your thread, these are the same questions that an individual is asked when they fill out the federal form 4473 to purchase a firearm. That is why it says "are you the actual purchaser of this firearm?"
In NJ, a person is also asked these Questions in redundency on a pistol purchase permit, as well as on the Certificate of elegiblity for transfers of firearms from private person to private person.

jpattersonnh
09-24-2007, 03:59 AM
Chris, here in NH you can sell a long gun without paperwork from one private citizen to another. I think Ralph is reminding us in non commie-tized states that if you know, don't do it. Jim

ricferr
09-24-2007, 11:50 AM
I recently added a rifle to my collection, purchasing it from a retailer here in CA (maybe we are one of the "commie-tized" states referred to by jpattersonnh?) and had the pleasure of answering the questions on the form. My favorite was something to the effect of "are you insane?". Not sure why, but that cracked me up ... I guess if I was loony, i would answer "yes", and be denied the purchase?

The "Don't Lie For The Other Guy" site appears to be an effort by the NSSF to raise awareness of the illegality of buying firearms for someone else - guess that's a problem in some parts of the country? (commie-tized or otherwise).

Cheezywan
09-24-2007, 06:05 PM
I WILL NOT make straw purchase for anyone. I DO think that firearms make wonderful gifts. I have done this for my boss(FFL Holder), and my son. I keep the paperwork in the safe.

Cheezywan

bsn
09-24-2007, 06:47 PM
Once a firearm has been purchased by you, you are married to it forever in a traceable paper trail. If it is later used in a crime it is entirely possible to have the ATF give you a visit and investigate whether you are gun running. It is always a good idea to either make a bill of sale with the buyer’s signature on it or sell your gun through a dealer for your protection.

faucettb
09-24-2007, 08:38 PM
That's certainly true bsn. When I was in Alaska I ran a small gunsmith business. I purchased a Smith 3.5 inch 27 from a local pawn shop. I had this fine little 357 Armaloyed and magna-ported and eventually traded it off to a fellow soldier stationed where I was.

A few years later after I had returned to Idaho I had a visit from an Alcohol and firearms agent. He was trying to trace a stolen Alaska gun that had been pawned in Georgia by a fell in the Army.

I dug out my paperwork and showed him my purchase receipt and my ffl log where it had come in and gone out of my shop and I was in the clear. The fella whom ran the pawn shop had bought a stolen gun and not ran the required police check on it before he resold it to me.

It pays to keep records of your buys and sells even from private individuals and even if you don't have an ffl. It can sure save your behind some day.

old roy 240
09-26-2007, 10:12 AM
In oregon, an illegal can aquire a drivers licence without questions by directive from the govenor and in so doing can purchase a firearm because their is no background on these people. Typical of todays political climate in some of the commi-fied states

MikeG
09-26-2007, 10:46 AM
Oregon does not require the NICS check?

Or does the NICS check not verify citizenship?

Educate us, please.....

Oh and welcome to the forum.

jodum
09-27-2007, 08:52 AM
A coworker recently asked me to buy a pistol for him because he could not pass the NICS background check. The rules of the forum will not allow me to repeat what I told him. I then asked him if he would mind robbing the bank down the steet for me since I need a little extra cash. If he thought I should commit a felony to help him, I was sure he would not mind doing the same for me. He has not bothered me again.

mattsbox99
09-27-2007, 04:59 PM
I've had friends buy stuff for me at gun shows, simply because I always get delayed. The show is typically over a weekend, and the sellers are usually long gone after the show. It is starting to come around though, my last purchase was only a 20 minute delay.

langenc
09-28-2007, 01:38 PM
according to post #1-- UNAUTHORIZED IMMIGRANTS are ineligible.

What are illigals?? Just cause some states (New York recently) issue a DL dont make them legal-or does it??

They still have to answer the questions-and to falsify--FELONY if someone would prosecute.

Ralph McLaney
09-28-2007, 07:00 PM
8) persons under court-order restraints related to harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or child of such intimate partner; and
9) persons convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence

__________________________________________________ ________

Should a woman who slaps an "intimate partner" lose her
"civil right" to own a firearm for the rest of her life?

langenc
09-28-2007, 07:29 PM
"...should a woman loose her right..."
according to Lautenberg--YES but then he dont think anyone has such a right.

hpdrifter
09-28-2007, 08:42 PM
8) persons under court-order restraints related to harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or child of such intimate partner; and
9) persons convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence

__________________________________________________ ________

Should a woman who slaps an "intimate partner" lose her
"civil right" to own a firearm for the rest of her life?

If you slam the door after raising your voice, whether it's in anger or your neighbor just thought so, you could conceivably lose your right to own a firearm.

tom vito
09-30-2007, 03:46 PM
had the pleasure of answering the questions on the form. My favorite was something to the effect of "are you insane?". Not sure why, but that cracked me up ... I guess if I was loony, i would answer "yes", and be denied the purchase?



Not funny at all, on my first CCW aplication, i was so used to writing yes, that I wrote YES to the are you insane question. Luckly I had an understading Sherief, that let me explain why I was insane.