Just curious. I still have most of a lb. of it from a few years ago. I liked it in my 45ACP loads. If anyone's not sure what I mean, I mean Winchester Action Pistol.

I was set to use it in my 40S&W several years ago, and it was unavailable then, but supposedly Ramshot "SILHOUETTE" is a direct replacement for it, the only difference is a coating that helps it burn cleaner?, personally I think that it's the dirtiest smoke less powder I ever used, if it burns cleaner than WAP I'm glad I never found any.

It's listed as "New" in the 1994 Winchester reloading guide, but isn't listed in their 2001 edition. Best I can do.

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Jack

The guys are right; it was in 1998 or 1999, I think.

WAP couldn't compete with Alliant Power Pistol, which is still made and still popular. PP does tend to create huge fireballs at the muzzle, though.

Other slowish spherical powders that may work are HS-6 and Accurate AA-7 (now marketed by Ramshot).

Thanks, guys. What do you mean when you say "couldn't compete with" Power Pistol? That wasn't out when I started using WAP.

Slight subject shift, but is it just me or is the Winchester powder line shrinking generally? Is that to do with Hodgdon's acquisition of the name or just coincidence? I guess maybe I'm just out of the norm for liking their powders...

IIRC, Power Pistol was introduced in 1996.

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Jack

Well, people apparently didn't buy WAP, but they did buy PP. So WAP went the way of the white buffalo, and PP is still with us.

Powders (like all products) come and go with market demand. If the producer thinks there is a need/demand for something, they'll develop it (at great cost and risk) and market it. If it sells, they keep making it until it stops selling.

But when it does stop selling, or something better comes out, they stop making it. Sony doesn't make WalkMan units anymore, GM doesn't make Oldsmobiles and IBM doesn't make typewriters. The canister powder market is pretty darn crowded, with lots of overlap; it's no surprise to me that some of them that came have now gone - especially "niche" powders like WAP.

Winchester powders cover almost the whole reloading spectrum as is, with only one or two gaps. W748, W760 and the soon-to-be announced W780 cover the rifle spectrum well except for small cartridges I wouldn't be surprised to see a Winchester-branded version of LilGun come out to cover those. WW doesn't have a huge following in handgun/shotgun powders with the exceptions of W231 and W296. I don't get the feeling that a lot of shotgunners use WST or WSF, and perhaps that's where Hodgdon/WW see room to cut back. Just guessing, though.

OK, so you mean "couldn't compete" in terms of sales, but not in terms of empirical performance numbers.

I think you've listed what I mean by my powder line comment. They have 2 rifle powders ('cause soon-to-be-announced isn't the same as in-production) and 2 pistol powders. I guess with the shotshell powders maybe that's close to what other lines have, but it sure seems that other manufacturers have a whole lot more in the product line. It doesn't really matter, I suppose, because I use products without regard to how many stablemates for it there are. It's just interesting to me, that's all.