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Peter
11-06-2007, 03:26 PM
I recently picked up A Taylor & Company 1992 Armi Sport in .45 colt and was wondering if any one has/had one and can give me some input on this particular firearm. It's color case hardened and has nicely figured wood.
I've always liked the 1992 leveraction design, though never heard of Armi Sport.
Thanks in advance.
Peter

Peter
11-11-2007, 08:24 PM
Well after a trip to the range, I can tell you this particular rifle did NOT function with the lee flat point bullets. Tho the Lyman SWC's were fine.
Peter

Marshal Kane
11-12-2007, 09:13 AM
Would suggest you try cast round nose flat point (RNFP) bullets which tend to feed reliably in lever action rifles. Am using this bullet for both my .45 Colt and .44 WCF Armi San Marco '92s. Have had no experience with the '92s sold by Taylor's but Taylor's is popular with the CAS crowd so it should be a decent product. Would hope Taylor's has a service/parts department should you ever need it.

Peter
11-13-2007, 12:37 AM
Thanks Marshal,
I was using a Lee RNFP 255 gr. cast bullet sized to .452. They were hanging up at the chamber mouth about an eighth of an inch up from the crimp, on the bullet. COL was 1.570 which is .030 under the max COL. The bullet was crimped into the crimp groove.

It was as if the radius of the bullet was catching the ramp before the cartridge guides let go of the cartridge rim.

Having a few of the Lyman 454424 Kieth style SWC cast on hand I made up some dummy cartridges, they went through the cycle with out a hitch. I then varried the seating depth from max COL down to the "step?" on the SWC with good results. I kinda like the kieth style SWC's anyway and have a set of Lyman 452424 molds ordered.

One other thing, which was minor, was the extractor was loose. Not just a little loose...flop around failure to extract loose. That got a tweak with a babbet bar, just enough to settle it down into the bolt. Still some lateral slop to it so either the slot in the bolt is wide or the extractor is narrow. As long as it works I can live with it... :)

It is a beautiful rifle, no doubt just need to work out a few kinks and put together a load it likes...

Will probably see bout parts avalibility from Taylor & Co. some time in the future...hopefully not the immediate future... :D

Peter

Marshal Kane
11-13-2007, 10:10 AM
Peter,
I haven't tried the Lee RNFP. I'm casting with the Lyman .45 Colt and .44 WCF Cowboy moulds, sized .452" and .428" respectively, and crimping into the crimp groove with no feed problems. If the Lee SWC bullet works for you, no reason to change.

Had extractor problems with both of my Armi San Marco made '92s. The extractor on my .45 Colt would sometimes fail to snap completely over the cartridge rim and would slip off during extraction. The extractor on the .44 WCF was, as yours, "loose as a goose". The first problem was solved with a little judicious polishing at the extractor claw. The second was tightened up by adding some solder to the bottom of the tail end of the extractor. This took out all the vertical play but there is still some lateral play left. Extraction/ejection went from 10% to 80%. Still need some more work here.

Both are very nice looking rifles. Octagonal blued barrels and color case hardened receivers and furniture. One has an oil finish on the wood, the other has a piano finish. How these rifles initially made it past quality control I"ll never know.
These are really fun guns to shoot once the problems are eliminated. Mild recoil and accurate, what's there not to like? BTW, should you need parts or gunsmithing, Steve Young at steve@stevesgunz.com is very good with the '92s. Best wishes.

Peter
11-13-2007, 03:00 PM
I have heard of Steve Young....only good things about his ability to tune a lever action, for a reasonable fee.
I can order parts from him too? didn't know that... :D
Thanks Marshal