Since dad passed away some time ago, mom asked me to go thru some of his personal things.

In a plastic bottle was assorted cartridges and among them several paper hulled shotshells. They have copper bases with no primer (I'm assuming they are rimfire) and marked with "W". They are loaded with a rolled crimp over a card. The base diameter is .348" with a .400 dia. rim. Overall length is 1.588.

Sorry i don't have a digital camera so no pics.

That sounds like a 9mm Flobert shotshell. It's longer than the dimensions shown in Ammoguide, but I've got a paper cased with copper base one in the cartridge collection that's 1.579". Another all brass cased one is 1.409" long. A W headstamp is Winchester's. A neighbour had a 9mm single shot shotgun with a tip-up breechblock years ago, but no ammunition.

http://ammoguide.com/?catid=224

Bye
Jack

Anything like these? I have posted pictures of the 6mm. 7mm. long and short and the 9mm. long and short together with a .410 for scale from mu collection. The 9mm's come in all colours and are still available but in all brass or nickel. Lagopus.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/lagopus/PictureFile.2826.jpg

Those are wild! Anyone have a picture of the firearm that chambers these rounds???
Thanks for sharing. Awesome collection you have there!
All the best,
Glenn

I collect all sorts of old ammunition as well as guns. Here are two bolt action shotguns made by Webley & Scott in Birmingham from my collection. They make a .410 also that is just about identical, except for being slightly larger.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/lagopus/PictureFile-59.jpg

The old paper case rim fire shot ammunition is no longer available but Fiocchi and Hirtenberger certainly still make brass cased examples. With the old paper one the parer actually flies off down the barrel upon firing leaving just the metal head behind. Quite a few Continental makers still produce these small pest guns and they can be had in a variety of action types. Winchester did once make a 9mm. rimfire shotgun, the Model 36 bolt action which was in production from 1920 to 1927. I understand that they are very collectable. 7mm. shotguns are quite rare as are examples of the cartridges. The tin on the left of the first photo contains 100 rounds of ammo so you can see how small they are. Lagopus.....