Been mulling exactly what to do with my pre-64 stand. action reciever. The 9.3 x 62 is one which would be my 2nd but don't really desire that nor a 3rd .338-06. The 35 Whelan is possible but the 2 mentioned calibers would fit that bill. Curious about the .400 Whelan Imp. as well as the .416 Ruger.

Any one here built up a 416 Ruger? Seems like the only thing to do or perhaps a ...... 9.3/375Ruger. Still don't own a .40 over bore to date and now over the 50 hump is ......just wondering. Never really needed one in the first 50 yrs so.....how is your .416 Ruger? The .416 Taylor pops up "but' with the infamous belt.

Sure would be nice to have in the boat and in camp up in the Brooks.

Just very curious.

grizz106..............I have been thinking about doing the same thing.

that action I spoken of now is done with Oxphyo an looks pretty good-just sitting around. I now will practice with the Pilks Rust bluing on it after the holidays. Eventually Totanka I will get a barrel and get it chambered into the .416 Ruger and have readied by spring grizz hunt. A thought shared by another in having it done on a Steyr case(376) necked up to a 400 with it but........think there is more than enough selection of bullets in the 416.

welcome by the way to an excellent site-pretty mild place to visit. If you reload Marshall Stanton has good ones in some accurate shooting hardcast!

grizz,
The 416 Ruger sure sounds like a good and fun project. Despite the belt, the 416 Taylor is a dandy. I have one on a M98, and that darn belt hasn't diminished my affection for it. Easy to load for, with either 338 WM, or 458 WM brass. I did get some A-Square 416 Taylor brass, and it is very good brass. That belt has been maligned for accuracy, but I've found mine to be very accurate. Anyway, how accurate do you need to be at 150 yards max? 1 MOA is great for such a cartridge, and my setup is beating that handily. But the 416 Ruger should be a great wildcat. Good luck in your project, and I hope to hear more on your project, and its performance.

Shawn I use to have a .416 Taylor and I kind of wish I had never sold it now. Easy to load for. I was thinking about another one, but with the introduction of the Ruger case, it just seemed like it would be the logical choice now when starting from scratch.

Good luck with your project grizz106. I doubt I will get at mine this year, but who knows. Please keep us posted.

If you visit the AR site and do a search there are the AR series 416, 458 and 470 to consider plus the 500AR. I'm in the process of building a 458AR and a mate has ordered dies etc for a 500AR ... the sub 50cal AR's are easy to source brass for (300RUM) and the 416AR will match and exceed the 416Remington in a "standard" length action. But ... on a classic action like a pre-64 I'd really look at something classically American ... 35Whelen and 400Whelen stand out ... the later being potentially a tough one if your a sloppy reloader when it comes to setting up the dies etc ... A 300H&H would also be kind of neat. I just sold a virtually unfired CZ 416Rigby to build my 458AR ... but the next bigbore will be a 416Taylor ... I think that chambering has so much potential as a "mild" bigbore its just not funny. At reasonable pressures ... there's a lot to be said for a 340gr at 2600fps and a 400gr at 2150fps. But, being a nutty wildcatter, I'd be tempted to make the bore size 0.411" and base it on the 300WinMag case!!

So ... if you dont want to change the bolt face ... get a 1:12" twist barrel in 35Whelen. If you open the boltface ... a 416Taylor. If Ruger does release a commercial 416Ruger you can always open the Taylor out and I'd not be prepared to build a "wildcat 416Ruger" incase the factory one was considerably different. Cheers...
Con

Been mulling exactly what to do with my pre-64 stand. action reciever. The 9.3 x 62 is one which would be my 2nd but don't really desire that nor a 3rd .338-06. The 35 Whelan is possible but the 2 mentioned calibers would fit that bill. Curious about the .400 Whelan Imp. as well as the .416 Ruger.

Any one here built up a 416 Ruger? Seems like the only thing to do or perhaps a ...... 9.3/375Ruger. Still don't own a .40 over bore to date and now over the 50 hump is ......just wondering. Never really needed one in the first 50 yrs so.....how is your .416 Ruger? The .416 Taylor pops up "but' with the infamous belt.

Sure would be nice to have in the boat and in camp up in the Brooks.

Just very curious.

Grizz106,

The pre-64 is a perfect match for the 376 Steyr case. The bolt head is opened slightly (.025") and the magazine length will accomodate heavier bullets seated out. The reamer for the 400 (.411") is on its way an that is a slightly improved Steyr case. The same case I've made the other Steyr wildcats on. I guess I have a whole series of them.

With Hornady gearing up to make the 450/400 ammo for Rugers #1 venture, they will have inexpensive bullets at 300, 350 and 400 grains. They currently make the 300 in both round nose and spitzer for the 405 Win and Kodiak, North Fork and Hawk make bullets in 410/411 as well as Woodleigh. The Hornadys would be an good choice for fun and target shoots with the Kodiaks or tough Woodleighs when the going gets tough. I'm going to make one of these on an FN Mauser action. It will serve quite nicely with a 21" barrel. It will slightly better the ballistics of the 450/400 NE with 400 grains at 2200 fps.

Murphy, hello my friend! bore dia. of that 400 Murphy is what .410" or .411"? IF I order a bbl. it would be ............. That does sound like an ideal caliber.

Hello to you my good friend. I hope this finds you well.

I have my reamer drawing here and it is called the .411 something or other, my reamer maker needs a name, and it shows a freebore diameter of .4120" so it is for .411" bullets. The Hornadys are .411" and woodleigh makes .410" and .411". The 411 diameter is the most common among calibers and bullet makers. I would also say accuracy in the varied guns I've tested with .411 bores was as good with one as the other, all things considered. I found a JC higgins FN 30-06 with a perfect receiver which will be used for mine. I am trying to decide on barrel diameter. I think .620" is about minimum, we like a bout .100" around the hole at the muzzle. This will make good light weight rifle.

And I am still planning to name this one after you, friend, that sounds better than another Murphy:):)