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Am I imagining things or are the 94s (especially the 70s and 80s production) prone to rust? I know due to some carelessness in my youth my 30-30 has a perfect hand print on the receiver.....
Andy
Kragman71
12-01-2007, 09:29 AM
Am I imagining things or are the 94s (especially the 70s and 80s production) prone to rust? I know due to some carelessness in my youth my 30-30 has a perfect hand print on the receiver.....
Andy
Andy
My '94 was made in 1971.I never worried about rusting,but,when I took it from the rack last week,it had a tad of rust alongside of the rear sight.
I'm not a "fetish"guncleaner but something like this is unusual for me.
rank
faucettb
12-01-2007, 01:00 PM
I'm to the point now where I check them ever week or so and all the rifles get taken down and oiled in the places you can't see after each hunting season.
This practice started when I bought my first Remington 870 Special when they first came out. It was in a 3 inch 12 gauge. It had a strange finish that looked like something sprayed on. I've had several 870's over the years and all were standard blue guns.
After a month or so sitting in the gun safe with my other rifles and shotguns I took it out to go hunting and noticed a slight red coating on the metal. It was rust. This gun had been well oiled with a good gun oil when it was put in the safe. All the other guns were OK.
The finish on this new Remington was not blue, but some kind of coating perhaps sprayed on or dipped, I'm not sure. Getting the rust off was somewhat of a problem and I had to dissemble the gun completely. I ended up using a brass brush and brushing a rust desolving oil on til it cleaned up.
By the time I was done I was disgusted to say the least. I then went hunting and it was a dry day and the shotgun didn't get wet. When I got back I wiped it down with gun oil and put it in the safe. A week later I took it out for another hunting trip and it was again coated with a light film of rust. I believe you could have left this gun in a bucket of oil and that gun would rust.
I sold that gun and bought a new Rem 870 Special in the 3.5 inch mag version. It had the same finish and the same rusting problems. I later found out that this finish had some problems and it wasn't cured properly when done. It needed dipped in a "stopper" after the finish was applied and wasn't dipped long enough and lots of these "specials" would rust like that. I think Remington has finally fixed this finish, but they would simply rust spontaneously regardless of the oil put on them.
Moral of the story is some finishes just are more prone to rust than others. I've since went to Kroil to protect my guns in the safe. Two years ago I bought a Remington 870 Youth Special and along with Remingtons slight change in the finish and Kroil it's been rust free since it went into the safe. I sure recommend the Kroil for stored guns.
J Miller
12-03-2007, 04:47 PM
Andy,
I don't think they are any more prone to rust than any others. But all of mine do have some rust spots that have occurred due to any number of reasons. Sweat and body salts not cleaned off quick enough, evaporative coolers in AZ, a stray tom cat that snuck in my house one time and did his thing. ( he's lucky I didn't catch him in the act)
I keep all my guns wiped down with a rust preventive and they haven't gotten any worse even though I'm in the very humid mid west. I'm pretty sure it's what and how you care for them more than the guns themselves.
Joe
ribbonstone
12-03-2007, 04:57 PM
Also don't think they are more prone to rusting...however, by design, you do tend to one-hand them right on the metal of the reciever, which promotes rust by hand contact.
langenc
12-03-2007, 05:18 PM
To prevent those finger/hand prints wipe em down with a Rig Rag or Rig Rug. Can make your own with Rig grease on any soft cloth. Will not rust with a nice wipedown of Rig. Also i stays put unlike oil which due to ole friend gravity goes DOWN..
i've found that if i only handle my guns after i've done the dishes when all the acids and salts are washed away they don't rust as much.... (dishes is one of my chores around here)............ :eek:
J Miller
12-04-2007, 04:54 PM
Also don't think they are more prone to rusting...however, by design, you do tend to one-hand them right on the metal of the reciever, which promotes rust by hand contact.
ribbonstone, you are quite correct. I overlooked that very obvious fact when I posted the first time. Plus the skin sometimes holds particles of dirt that can be somewhat abrasive to the finish.
Keep them wiped down with a rust preventive is all I can say.
Joe
ribbonstone
12-04-2007, 07:41 PM
The LocTite folks make a spray metal preservative...basically a spray-let dry-hard wax...that has kept outside metal work (unpainted wrought iron) rust free for 6 mo. in this S. Louisiana climate. Hasn't let any of the stored guns rust in the same time frame, and they have been handled off and on during that time. Proably not worth a rat's-rump for lubrication, but it does seem to keep rust away very well.
Trailblazer
12-07-2007, 05:53 AM
The reason they rust is so we can make them blue. Bluing is rust.
tom vito
12-11-2007, 03:18 PM
How is it that guns in a shop get handled all the time, but never show signs of rusting? Or is it just that enough time hasn't passed?
I mean places like Gander Mtn. And Cabelea's, they would need several full time gun cleaners to keep the displays from rusting, from all of the handling.
ribbonstone
12-11-2007, 03:43 PM
Can't speak for all shops, but the one's i've worked at, when it gets a little slow, you get out the sheath-rag.
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