Can someone tell me what the length of the guide gun barrel would be if cut flush with the magazine tube?

TOO SHORT.

if you get a dowel and rest it on the bolt you can mark the muzzle position and measure the barrel. you can mark 16" on it to see where the cut line is. You can safely cut a stock guide gun barrel about where the rear ramp screw is. It won't be flush with the mag tube.

Keep in mind barrels on a rifle can't be cut shorter than 16 inches in the US and it's better to stay at 16.5 for legality's sake. Shorter than that can get you a trip to the gray bar hotel.

Keep in mind barrels on a rifle can't be cut shorter than 16 inches in the US and it's better to stay at 16.5 for legality's sake. Shorter than that can get you a trip to the gray bar hotel.

I thought you could cut them shorter as long as you register them as a pistol? Perhaps I am mistaken.

Dan

I thought you could cut them shorter as long as you register them as a pistol? Perhaps I am mistaken.

Dan


No, you'd have to register it as an SBR [short barrelled rifle]...I do not know the where fore's and how'd ya do's on that registration, but I'd bet dollars to donuts I"d make some called to the ATF or your State Police before I broke out the hacksaw and files...

CYA

No, you'd have to register it as an SBR [short barrelled rifle]...I do not know the where fore's and how'd ya do's on that registration, but I'd bet dollars to donuts I"d make some called to the ATF or your State Police before I broke out the hacksaw and files...

CYA
Thanks for the clarification. Not interested in doing this, so no worries here. :)

Dan

Can you legally hunt with a SBR ?
Can you use a SBR for HD ?
Can you easily sell a SBR ?

When considering making/owning a SBR,people need to consider the answers to these questions. -----pruhdlr

Hey dude what happened to you! You never responded to my messages.PRUHDLR shoot me a email!!!!!

To make an SBR you must get and file a Form 1 with the ATFE, making a SBR. You fill it out in duplicate, get two passport photos, two certificate of compliance cards (only one needed but everything else is in duplicate so why not?) and two finger print cards. Both forms need to be signed off on by your local CLEO. Then you send both with a $200 check to the ATFE and wait 2-6 months for approval. Only after you get your approved form 1 back can you cut the barrel. Either before the form comes back or before the barrel is cut you need to have the gun marked with your name, city, and state as the maker of the SBR in a conspicuous location on barrel, frame, or receiver; not hidden under a handguard! No size limitation on the engraving but it must be .003 inch deep minimum, which does limit you on size as being no smaller than 1/16 inch tall because it must be readable. Then you can do with it whatever you want but be sure to keep a copy of the tax stamp/form with the rifle at all times or on your person. Local laws depend on what you can hunt with so I cannot address that.

Anyway, to sell it you must sell it on a Form 4 (transfer of a class 3 weapon), the buyer undergoes near the same paperwork you did to make it and must wait for approval before taking delivery of it. It must be transferred to him through a class 3 dealer just like a machine gun.

Last, you can convert a pistol to rifle but you can never, under any circumstance convert a rifle to pistol. Once a rifle, always a rifle. The best you can do with a rifle is make an SBR.

and there ya go....

To make an SBR you must get and file a Form 1 with the ATFE, making a SBR. You fill it out in duplicate, get two passport photos, two certificate of compliance cards (only one needed but everything else is in duplicate so why not?) and two finger print cards. Both forms need to be signed off on by your local CLEO. Then you send both with a $200 check to the ATFE and wait 2-6 months for approval. Only after you get your approved form 1 back can you cut the barrel. Either before the form comes back or before the barrel is cut you need to have the gun marked with your name, city, and state as the maker of the SBR in a conspicuous location on barrel, frame, or receiver; not hidden under a handguard! No size limitation on the engraving but it must be .003 inch deep minimum, which does limit you on size as being no smaller than 1/16 inch tall because it must be readable. Then you can do with it whatever you want but be sure to keep a copy of the tax stamp/form with the rifle at all times or on your person. Local laws depend on what you can hunt with so I cannot address that.

Anyway, to sell it you must sell it on a Form 4 (transfer of a class 3 weapon), the buyer undergoes near the same paperwork you did to make it and must wait for approval before taking delivery of it. It must be transferred to him through a class 3 dealer just like a machine gun.

Last, you can convert a pistol to rifle but you can never, under any circumstance convert a rifle to pistol. Once a rifle, always a rifle. The best you can do with a rifle is make an SBR.
WOW! What in the heck ever happened to "the right to keep and bear arms"?? :eek::eek:

Dan