Hi All
Pretty new to this anyway this is my question I have a fairly new Win 94AE in .44 Mag I purchased it secondhand but it seemed in very good condition anyway I had put about 60 rounds through it and the shoulders on the bottom lever (the bit that pulls the locking bolt down) sheared off, I took it back to the shop ant the broken part was replaced FOC seemed good to me I have since put a further 50 or so rounds through it and I have exactly the same problem the shop said they would fix it again but I would really like to get to the root of the problem I have not been using hot loads nor have I had hard extractions has anybody else had these problems
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The internet is interesting in that if you stick around for awhile you will see “everything.”
I have never heard of a failure like this before and certainly not two on one rifle.
I’ll look at one of my spare links tonight but I cannot imagine the link breaking in this area.
I have not been there is awhile but have you posted about this on Guntraders.UK? I think that is the name of the site. Several years ago there were several posts about odd problems with Winchester Model 94’s, mostly .357 Magnums if I recall correctly. I went back there to look but apparently they only keep forum posts for a year – unless I don’t know how to search – which is entirely possible.
Are there any rub marks on the silver locking bolt?


I know very little about computers. I assume you copied the picture onto a Word document. How can I pull it off and put it on my picture veiwer so I can blow it up?

The broken part is the one you labled "A"? Is called a link I believe. That would be tough to break even if I tried fairly hard. You've got her torn down to the point that you should be able to see and feel something binding in there.

First time I've heard of this too.

Cheezywan

Edit: I just downloaded the file to my documents and opened it william iorg(after checking for virus It was clean). I can't see the break clearly, but pe4king's description indicates the link broke to me.

Try this, Slim. Put your mouse pointer on the picture and right click. That should bring up a menu. Click on Copy. Open your picture viewer. Most have an Edit opinion on the top. Click on Edit, then click on Paste.

Bye
Jack

pe4king: I had the link break in the same place on mine. I haven't had a problem with it since.
Mine was used also when I bought it. Did yours have the large loop lever also? Up untill now I had assumed that the previous owner had been playing Lucas McCain but now I am begining to think a batch of defective parts.

thanks for the swift replies I have further ammended the pic to show exactly where the shoulders have sheared the steel looks very brittle like a casting so please look at the pic again, also just to clarify this pic is not of the actual rifle as A, i cant upload any pics as they are too big and B, i dont want to strip the rifle as knowing my luck lately it would invalidate the waranty
thanks

pe4king: I had the link break in the same place on mine. I haven't had a problem with it since.

As I said, if we hang around long enough... You dont happen to have your old part do you? Did the part fracture all at once or was there a crak which finaly failed?

The part has been gone for a couple of years. I remember examining it and not being able to see any discoloration on the fractured metal. It seemed like all at once to me. It shot fine one time and would not function the next. I was maybe 200 or 250 rounds into the new to me rifle. I chalked it up to a hairline that I had missed when I bought it but that was why the previous owner had known about. Bought another link from Brownells and changed it out. The rifle hasn't given another problem since except it will no longer feed the Lee 320 RNFP seated in the front crimp groove. It would before. (maybe a missmatch or slightly out of specp or nearly out of specc?)
I could not see any way to place a strain on that part of a rifle short of a spin feed with too much force. I am not sure that even that would do it.

That is very interesting.
I dont know how the part could be strained to breaking either.
My Winchester Timber rifle will not allow the 310 grain Lee to enter the magazine with the bullet seated to the crimp groove. The cartridge will not make the turn from the loading gate into the magazine. Once in the magazine the carridges feed fine.
I have a lot to learn about these things.

thanks for the swift replies I have further ammended the pic to show exactly where the shoulders have sheared the steel looks very brittle like a casting so please look at the pic again, also just to clarify this pic is not of the actual rifle as A, i cant upload any pics as they are too big and B, i dont want to strip the rifle as knowing my luck lately it would invalidate the waranty
thanks


Warranty? What warranty? Did your dealer warranty you rifle? Nice of him.

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Yes the dealer I got it from puts a year warranty on all used guns, it is very good of him I dont think many others do