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howard_the_duck
02-12-2008, 08:59 AM
i have been told by a couple people that single shot rifles tend to be more accurate due to the fewer amount of moving parts
is this a fact or myth????
Kragman71
02-12-2008, 09:14 AM
Probably myth.
Shooter's get betteraccuracy from single shots because they HAVE to.
That is why a single shot is a good 'first' gun fr a beginner.
As a 'youngster,I was acclaimed as a 'crackshot',with my new Rem 510 rifle.After I altered it to a clip fed repeater,I was just 'OK'.
Frank
kennisondan
02-12-2008, 09:20 AM
myth... but the one shot thing does merit better shooting and concentration, that is a sure thing for me... I followed through and saw the holes in the deer I shot with mine, did not bother to reload and never had to.. then I got a repeater...
8iowa
02-12-2008, 09:52 AM
Back in the late 19th century all target rifles were single shot. There was of course the simplicity of the rifle (although John Browning designed an overly complex single shot rifle that became the 1885 Winchester.) Perhaps the major factor was the fact that the single shot rifle could load a cartridge of much longer overall length - more powder, heavier & longer bullet, and higher velocity. This situation carried through well into the 20th century - certainly up to WWI.
Repeaters in that early era severely limited the cartridge OAL, and they had to operate at more modest pressures. With the machine tools of those times it is remarkable that they were as accurate as they were.
Now, over 100 years later, there have been vast improvements in metalurgy and machining. It is possible today to produce rifles with exacting tolerances that result in exacting accuracy - even in auto-loaders.
howard_the_duck
02-12-2008, 11:45 AM
thank you
so what you guys are saying is it is all in your head a guy with a repeating rifle doesnt try as hard cause he knows he can (more then likely) always get a second shot and it falls under the same reason why my grandfather took away my automatic 12 gauge shotgun and made me hunt with his bolt action 410 for a couple years so i would quit wasting the money he spent on ammo and take my time to shoot right the first time
Jack Monteith
02-12-2008, 11:57 AM
It's a little different in the target shooting games, as you need more than one shot that counts. A bolt action that has a solid bottom instead of a magazine cut-out is stiffer, and usually more accurate. Some of the pure single shots like the falling block actions are very good, but some aren't. The stock Ruger #1 needs some tuning and modifications to equal a bolt action.
Bye
Jack
ribbonstone
02-12-2008, 02:38 PM
When they made single shot bolt actions without the cut out for the magazine, many people claimed they were a stiffer action; I suspect you weren't thinking about bolt action single shots.
Nope...doubt single shot actions ae more accurate...possible their owners are more accurate, as they always have just one shot to get the job done.
Bestboss
02-12-2008, 03:06 PM
Howard,
I have several single shots, some built on original actions. It's not about fewer moving parts. It's about knowing what works best with each rifle. some of mine are cast bullet shooters and jacketed bullets just don't work in them as well.
One of the advantages of the single shots, is that in my case, I have tang sights on most of them. With a longer sighting radius, you will have better potential accuracy.
A single shot allows you to clean from the breech and you may stand less chance of damaging the crown.
Having said all of that, if I want to shoot little groups, I tend to grab my Browning Safari (old model) in 300 Win mag. With a fixed Leupold 6X, dimes at 100 yards ar not safe. It's different for everyone I suppose.
Bestboss
41bob
02-12-2008, 03:49 PM
Do you mean single shot bolt action or Break open barrel?
cole k
02-12-2008, 05:50 PM
thank you
so what you guys are saying is it is all in your head a guy with a repeating rifle doesnt try as hard cause he knows he can (more then likely) always get a second shot and it falls under the same reason why my grandfather took away my automatic 12 gauge shotgun and made me hunt with his bolt action 410 for a couple years so i would quit wasting the money he spent on ammo and take my time to shoot right the first time
Howard, that is about the size of it.
But when a guy gets good with a single shot rifle he can get off a second shot about as quick as a guy with a bolt action.
pisgah
02-12-2008, 06:24 PM
I wouldn't necessarily agree that single shots "tend to be more accurate". Yes, some are extremely accurate, especially if they are built with an eye towrds extreme accuracy. I have a little Brown M97D rifle that is an absolute phenomenon. But ... I've had bolts and semi-autos that were darned fine, too.
Some single shots are very accurate, or can be made so. Some have, and will always have, lousy accuracy. Most will provide good-enough-for-hunting accuracy. Ditto for other rifle types.
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