mine is set 21/2 inch high at a hundred,,so i guess zeroed around 225 yds..
thats with 150 grn power point winchester..not sayin thats any better, but you gotta pick one
cause shes gonna be off with anything else ,,so its one type for each of my rifles..
just wondered how you fellas set your 336 30-30s up..my 30'06 is set the same way..
thanks

My .30-30s are iron sighted. I zero dead-on for 100 yards, and the areas I hunt rarely offer a shot any longer than that. With that zero, and my eyes, I am still capable of "minute-of-deer" accuracy to 200 yards, should the opportunity present itself.

My flat shooter 7-08 is sighted in for 200 yards. My lever guns are sighted in for 100 yards. It may be just me but I find with a 30-30 or 444 the 100 yard zero means I am also very close at 25 yard and 50 yards where a lot of the action is. One of my concerns is that a 200 zero on a 30-30 means being about 4-5" high at 150 yards. Of course the only way to be sure is to go out and set up a bunch of targets at different distances.

Besides... it's a good excuse to go shooting! :D

If you are loony enough about all this to spend time poring over drop tables, you will eventually discover a curious thing (and yes, I was loony enough to discover it).

Big game rifles of almost ANY cartridge or caliber will produce just about their optimum trajectory if they are sighted in between 2 and 2.5 inches high at 100 yards. Sight there and you get a very usable, no thinking required trajectory from the muzzle out to somewhere in the 200-275 yard range. As I describe it, that's your "hold on hair" range.

If you're interested, the same applies to varmint guns, except that with the much smaller critter size, the optimum sight-in is from one to 1.5 inches high at 100. Most of these flat-shooting rounds will be on hair from muzzle to almost 300 yards.

Amazing but true. Use your own favorite cartridges and examine the trajectory (use printed tables or ballistic software) and see. Invariably, you'll get your optimum results when sighted 2 to 2.5 inches high at 100.

Two inches high is about what I do on flatter shooting rounds. My 444 is set up to be dead on at 100, due to the fact that most of my shooting with that round is under 150yards. No tables or software beat going out and actually shooting at the distances you think you may be hunting. Build up a load that shoots accurately at 100yards, then shoot it at 25-50-100-150-200-250-300 and so on....whatever distances you actually can see yourself shooting. Ross Seyfried, the famous gun writer, once wrote that when you no longer can hit 3/3 or 5/5 on a 6inch paper plate (not from a bench-actual hunting/field shooting postions) then you have reached your actual hunting distance maximum. I have found this to be a pretty good measure. Something to think about.....
Hope this helps!

When you asked about "zero" slim60, implied a scoped rifle to me.

I enjoy a Winchester 94 that likes 170 grain bullets. As issued factory sights. Center of a five shot group is one inch high at a hundred yards. I seem to be able to hit a bean can sized object out to about 150 yards set up like that with a steady hold. Beyond that, I have the wrong rifle if for other than fun.

Cheezywan

My Win '94 has a 1x-4x scope.
I use 170 grain lead bullets and only shoot whitetails in the big woods.
It's sighted in at 100 yards.I can't see much beyond that.
Frank

I have my 30-30 sighted in for dead on @ 100 yrds. I set my rifle at this range because 99% of my shots will be less than 100 yards. I harvest most of my deer at 50 yards or less. These areas are pine thickets

Now if I hunt a bean field that spans 500 yards across then I have a totally different rifle.

thanks ... i understand the reason for all the distances posted..
playin today ,i discovered that for some reason my 336 is more stable and sure with the 170 grn .. my 30 06 savage is my most accurrate rifle.. but someday im going to the woods and find out how far out i have to go,, for the 06 to be more accurate than the 336..
our range don t go but 200 yds..they both shoot about the same at that range..
this 336 likes that 170 grn much better than the 150 i was using..the accurracy at 200yd is a big surprise to me.. i guess ill just leave it set like it is ,,as it seems to cover from 25 to 200 yds set up 2 high at 100.thanks for all the good input..slim

In my back yard.

1.25" high at 50 yards. Don't plan on shooting past 100. Prolly not even 75.

If you are loony enough about all this to spend time poring over drop tables, you will eventually discover a curious thing (and yes, I was loony enough to discover it).

Big game rifles of almost ANY cartridge or caliber will produce just about their optimum trajectory if they are sighted in between 2 and 2.5 inches high at 100 yards. Sight there and you get a very usable, no thinking required trajectory from the muzzle out to somewhere in the 200-275 yard range. As I describe it, that's your "hold on hair" range.

If you're interested, the same applies to varmint guns, except that with the much smaller critter size, the optimum sight-in is from one to 1.5 inches high at 100. Most of these flat-shooting rounds will be on hair from muzzle to almost 300 yards.

Amazing but true. Use your own favorite cartridges and examine the trajectory (use printed tables or ballistic software) and see. Invariably, you'll get your optimum results when sighted 2 to 2.5 inches high at 100.


Yep, that is what I do with all my rifles but my peep-sighted 30-30 and 35 Rem.

playin today ,i discovered that for some reason my 336 is more stable and sure with the 170 grn .. this 336 likes that 170 grn much better than the 150 i was using..

I found the same thing with my 336. It really liked loads using 170 grain bullets. Shooting the 150 grain bullets had more of a shotgun pattern. :) Never could get the 150s to work.

I did the same as Rocky. I started looking at the Remington ballistic tables at the back of their catalog (or on their website). With very few exceptions centerfire cartridges appropriate for North American big game will serve very well when sighted in 2" high at 100 yards.

If we only look at the numbers there are differences for sure. But practical field application wipes out most of those differences, they do not prove to be of "statistical significance" when shooting offhand, kneeling or sitting. There is way too much theory kicked around as "gospel" and way too little field experience due to the advertising industry's penchant for creating "perceived differences" where no practical difference exists.

My leverguns (30-30, 35 Rem., 444 Marlin) are zeroed for 100 yds. My scoped boltguns (223 Rem., 257 Robts., 280 Rem., '06, 35 Whelen) are sighted +2" at 100 yds.

Yup. If you sight your big-game rifle (ANY from 30-30 through 300 RUM) to hit 2" to 2.5" high at 100 yards, you can "aim at hair, never air" no matter what the reasonable range for that round. The actual maximum range will differ, but when the bullet energy plays out for YOUR round, so will the trajectory - IF you sight-in correctly.