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BRAVOWHISKEY
02-24-2008, 12:46 AM
I have read about this round and have started to get the "Itch". I have found a CZ 550 American chambered in this caliber and really like the rifle's feel. I have only been able to find brass from two companys and they are a little pricy. What can I expect from such a rifle and how close is this caliber as an all around shooter? I have heard that it has been used with sucess in Africa on every thing but the biggest beast. Would it be to much for black deer and would it be enough for the big nastys up north?
Thanks in advance on what you come up with.
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Good_Steward
02-24-2008, 03:46 AM
From what I understand, it is a little more powerful than a 300, so it should be fine for large Mule deer.
Good_Steward
02-24-2008, 03:52 AM
This is from the Nosler website:
9.3x62 Mauser
286gr Partition®
Ballistic Coefficient: .482
Sectional Density: .305
* Most Accurate Load Tested
Powder: Viht N-135
Charge Weight (in grains) Muzzle Velocity (fps) Load Density
52.5* 2293 fps 87%
50.5 2210 fps 84%
48.5 2127 fps 80%
Powder: Varget
Charge Weight (in grains) Muzzle Velocity (fps) Load Density
55.5 2362 fps 92%
53.5* 2269 fps 89%
51.5 2212 fps 85%
It's actually quite a bit more stout than I originally thought!
11B3V
02-24-2008, 06:46 AM
From Hodgdon site.
Cartridge: 9.3 x 62
Load Type: Rifle
Starting Loads Maximum Loads
250 GR. BAR X 250 Varget 56.0 2321 42,900 CUP 60.0C 2453 47,800 CUP
250 GR. BAR X 250 H335 51.0 2210 41,200 CUP 55.0 2360 47,700 CUP
250 GR. BAR X 250 H4895 51.0 2233 39,900 CUP 55.0 2384 47,900 CUP
270 GR. SPR SP 270 H4350 63.0 2322 38,500 CUP 67.0C 2438 44,600 CUP
270 GR. SPR SP 270 Varget 55.0 2290 40,100 CUP 59.5 2440 48,100 CUP
270 GR. SPR SP 270 BL-C(2) 60.0 2338 39,600 CUP 66.0 2548 47,400 CUP
270 GR. SPR SP 270 H335 54.0 2283 40,700 CUP 58.0 2411 47,600 CUP
270 GR. SPR SP 270 H4895 52.0 2244 39,800 CUP 56.5 2406 48,000 CUP
286 GR. NOS PART 286 H4350 64.0 2321 40,800 CUP 67.0C 2407 46,300 CUP
286 GR. NOS PART 286 H414 60.0 2205 40,700 CUP 63.0C 2305 47,800 CUP
286 GR. NOS PART 286 Varget 55.0 2242 39,800 CUP 59.0C 2350 47,500 CUP
286 GR. NOS PART 286 H335 51.0 2178 41,300 CUP 55.0 2323 48,100 CUP
286 GR. NOS PART 286 H4895 51.0 2131 39,000 CUP 55.5 2331 47,800 CUP
286 GR. NOS PART 286 760 60.0 2205 40,700 CUP 63.0C 2305 47,800 CUP
300 GR. SFT SP 300 H4350 60.0 2142 40,000 CUP 64.0C 2288 48,100 CUP
300 GR. SFT SP 300 H414 59.0 2136 41,500 CUP 62.0C 2242 46,200 CUP
300 GR. SFT SP 300 Varget 52.0 2083 42,000 CUP 56.0 2194 47,800 CUP
300 GR. SFT SP 300 BL-C(2) 54.0 2140 42,900 CUP 57.5 2211 47,900 CUP
300 GR. SFT SP 300 H4895 47.0 1979 40,200 CUP 52.0 2133 48,200 CUP
300 GR. SFT SP 300 760 59.0 2136 41,500 CUP 62.0C 2242 46,200 CUP
Norma loads a 232grain(15.0gram) Oryx bullet at 2624fps(800m/s)=3548ft/lb
A 256grain(16.6gram) bullet at 2560fps(780m/s)=3726ft/lb
A 286grain (18.5gram) bullet at 2360fps(720m/s)=3544ft/lb
A 293grain(19.0gram) bullet at 2430fps(740m/s)=3842ft/lb
I have a CZ550FS in 9.3x62 and it is the hammer on Elk and Moose!
George
hoyt3
02-24-2008, 11:49 AM
the 9.3x62 will do everything the 338 will do without as much recoil. It is very close to the 375 HH. As a matter of fact in several African countries where the 375 is the minimum legal caliber for dangerous game, the 9.3x62 is often allowed as an exception to that rule.
M1Garand
02-24-2008, 02:09 PM
There's some lighter bullets that should do well with deer sized game such the 250 grn Nosler Accubond, 270 grn Speer's SP or I think Norma makes a few 232 grn bullets.
cole k
02-24-2008, 02:50 PM
I have read about this round and have started to get the "Itch". I have found a CZ 550 American chambered in this caliber and really like the rifle's feel. I have only been able to find brass from two companys and they are a little pricy. What can I expect from such a rifle and how close is this caliber as an all around shooter? I have heard that it has been used with sucess in Africa on every thing but the biggest beast. Would it be to much for black deer and would it be enough for the big nastys up north?
Thanks in advance on what you come up with.
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BRAVOWHISKEY,<O:p</O:p
Two months ago I got to handle a CZ 550FS and a CZ 550 American both of these rifles felt good in the hands and handled well. The CZ 550FS was a .308 Win and the CZ 550 American was a 9.3x62. I tried to buy them but they had been special ordered and were not for sale. <O:p</O:p
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So, I went home and did some research and last month I ordered a CZ 550 FS in a 9.3x62. <O:p</O:p
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A 9.3x62 will kill any thing in North America and <ST1:pAfrica</ST1:p with in normal hunting ranges with a good bullet.<O:p
Here is a ballistic comparison of the 9.3x66 Sako, 9.3x62, 9.3x64 Brenneke, and the 35 Whelen.
.370 Sako Magnum / Federal Premium / 286 grain Nosler Partition
Velocity in Feet Per Second
Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
2550 2371 2200 2036 1878 1731
Energy in Foot Pounds
Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
4129 3571 3074 2632 2241 1902
9.3x62 Mauser / Norma factory Ammo / 285 grain bullet
Velocity in Feet Per Second
Muzzle 100 200 300
2362 2143 1937 1743
Energy in Foot Pounds
Muzzle 100 200 300
3532 2908 2375 1924
9.3x64 Brenneke / Handload / 286 grain Nosler Partition
Velocity in Feet Per Second
Muzzle 100 200 300
2600 2395 2223 2058
Energy in Foot Pounds
Muzzle 100 200 300
4294 3659 3074 2541
35 Whelen / Remington Express / 250 Pointed Soft Point
Velocity in Feet Per Second
Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
2400 2197 2005 1823 1652 1496
Energy in Foot Pounds
Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
3197 2680 2230 1844 1515 1242
naumann
02-24-2008, 04:54 PM
As suggested above, 9.3X62 is the European equivalent of the venerable, but not fantastically popular, .35 Whelen. As a Whelen fan I like to think of it as an all-around big game cartridge for North American game. The 9.3 ranks right along side the Whelen in performance EXCEPT it does not possess the romance of being associated with Mr. Rifleman himself.
11B3V
02-24-2008, 07:54 PM
No it doesn't but it precedes the 35whelen's daddy(30/06)by a year!
9.3x62 was introduced in 1905.
No the 35whelen is almost a 9.3x62 but falls short.
63.8grains of Reloader-15 under a Speer 270grain .366diameter semi-spitzer gives 2632fps over the chronograph from my CZ-550FS 21" barrel.
The favorite load that gives the most amazingly tiny groups is the 232grain Norma Vulcan!
Six years back I bought 500 of the 232grain .366diameter Norma Vulcans and 300 232grain .366diameter Norma FMJ.
They were originally intended for my Husqvarna bolt in 9.3x57.(which with 232grain bullets gives 2378fps).
George
grizz106
02-25-2008, 02:41 PM
It is the acceptable minimum in Africa as a DG- not so with the Whelan. Powder capacities differ and in favor of the Mauser. Bullet dia. is greater than the Whelan and bullet selection is just as good if not better. It is on the heels of the .375 HH without the recoil and in a smaller and lighter package. What is not to like about it?
I live up North and it is not too big for deer. It is a meat gun with a reputation of suberb knockdown and a tendency of not trashing up good meat. In fact I have one almost completed and readied for spring grizz hunt-always another rifle project, always something.
Bought Lapua brass and Redding Dies and Barnes 250's with lots of RL15.
best regards,:cool:
moosepucky
03-16-2008, 08:15 PM
I have read about this round and have started to get the "Itch". I have found a CZ 550 American chambered in this caliber and really like the rifle's feel. I have only been able to find brass from two companys and they are a little pricy. What can I expect from such a rifle and how close is this caliber as an all around shooter? I have heard that it has been used with sucess in Africa on every thing but the biggest beast. Would it be to much for black deer and would it be enough for the big nastys up north?
I had a 1920's Simpson Mauser in this caliber.
It was a little overkill for deer size game and a little expensive to shoot as you have found although the expense of this cartridge is not much consequence if you take one shot for one kill.
RWS and Norma still manufacture this caliber if you want factory loads
Canadain
03-16-2008, 08:37 PM
I live up North and it is not too big for deer. It is a meat gun with a reputation of suberb knockdown and a tendency of not trashing up good meat. In fact I have one almost completed and readied for spring grizz hunt-always another rifle project, always something.
Living the other side of the boarder it on the short list for my big gun
DakotaElkSlayer
03-18-2008, 09:43 PM
Got the CZ FS just before moving to Idaho in case my CZ FS in 6.5x55 wasn't enough gun for elk... The best thing about the cartridge is the recoil; very "shotgunish," not the slap you get with a magunum. 250gr. Accubonds have a great BC...
Jim
retrieverman
03-21-2008, 07:09 PM
I have a Blaser R-93 Professional in 9.3x62, and it is my favorite all around caliber. My loads that I have tried and gotten excellent results are:
250 gr Accubonds
53 gr Varget
Fed GM215M primers
285 gr PRVI bullets
55 gr Varget
Fed GM215M primers
for plinking
285 gr PRVI bullets/270 gr Mt Baldy cast bullets
43 gr Varget
Fed GM215M primers
I have shot honest one hole groups at 100 yards with all the loads.
RaySendero
03-21-2008, 09:12 PM
This is from the Nosler website:
9.3x62 Mauser
286gr Partition®
Ballistic Coefficient: .482
Sectional Density: .305
GS,
I looked it up and Nosler does indeed say the 286 PT has a .482 BC. I still find it hard to believe that a flat base bullet would have that high of BC. They say the .366 250 AB has a .496. - and Note, the .375 300 PT shows only .398 (which has a similar shape and SD as the .366 286)!!!!!
Going to raise the BS flag on Nosler claim of a .482 BC!
300grains
03-24-2008, 03:13 PM
A wild guess??? Maybe the bullets length will give high BC, when about the same weight.
Guess thast .375 Rhino in 380 grains should have a rather high BC. Correct me if I am thinking wrong.
ldv444
03-24-2008, 07:31 PM
It's one of the finest rifle rounds to ever come around. I believe if it were called the 366 Ruger or 366 "whatever American name you can think of that sounds good" it would be much more popular around the States. It will do everything the 35 Whelen will do and then some. Grafs and Sons has some good deals on ammo and components for this round. Natchez had Lyman dies at a very reasonable price some time ago. You could do a lot worse than this round.......it;s a winner!
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