I do not know if any of you watched the Ax Men on history last night. The show is filmed in NW Oregon right in my backyard and in my hunting grounds I thought it was pretty cool, being that my dad is a retired logger. I was hunting in the same Buck Mountain area that the Gustafson crew was working. yes the ground is that steep! Not only is this a really cool show is shows my hunting grounds and the crappy weather we have here.
http://www.history.com/minisites/axmen

black tail
You live in beautiful country.
I saw that show,and the previous one about "oldtime' loggers.
I never realized that they worked under pressure to get the wood out in a short period of time.
Frank

It's my backyard too. Kinda fun seeing something so local.

Weather was nicer for them than most elk seasons we have.

Yep!, same thing down here, I work on the trucks and "Crummy's" (pickups) for lots of the local companys down here.
Some of the ground here in the Coast Range is steeper thn that! it's not uncommon to be as far up the hill (or farther) than you are to the next ridge.
And our forest's are GREEN all year round, I wouldn't trade it for any thing!:cool:

It's kinda in my backyard too, and I've worked in some of those same exact places, such as Idiot Creek on the Wilson River, and Buck Mountain up the Nehalem. By the way, you've got that right about Buck Mountain, Blacktail... nothing appealing about that area for me, as it meant almost a three hour drive from my home in Willamina. I know several of the guys on the show.

I did not know there was that many of us here. I hunted all over buck mountain and all around Spruce run park. I like it:D.I have also hunted the Green mountain, military creek ares too. I'm up in Clatskanie so it is not too far of a drive for us to hunt those areas. Here is a pic of the film crew, they were filming while I was hunt I think that I'll blame them for me not getting a deer:rolleyes: I have allot more pics of the area I'll have to get them added to my photobucket account.

Spent a lot of time outside of Harlan up on Grants Ridge chasing them black-tails and black bears. Straight up and straight down comes to mind.


Take Care

Roy

This is a great show...this and ice road truckers are really good watches.

wait till next weeks episode You will get to see the December 2nd storm that we had, we are still cleaning up from it!

I'm continuing to enjoy the show. Everybody knows where I'll be Sunday night!

Yep, that was quite a storm. Clatsop County got pounded by wind. In other parts of the country they'd call it a hurricane, but we don't have those here.

I live right between the two big slides in Columbia county, the Woodson slide was two miles from my house, a friend of my wifes lost their house in that slide.

I work for a large land management agency. I have worked in the timber industry for 30 years, primarily with loggers on an almost daily basis.

I think the Ax Men show is a concerted effort to make the contractors on this show look stupid. Seldom, if ever, do I run into contractor's that are as inept as this show makes these particular contractors out to be. Any outfit that operates like these folks do is out of business fast.

Have you also noticed the amount of sound byte time that the guys who appear dumber than a bag of hammers get?

The professional contractors I deal with make 3 of the 4 contractors on this show appear like clowns. The one logger (Browning I believe) is more representative of the real world. Still, the show tries to make his son appear immature and inept.

I think the liberal green left has a hand in this show trying to discredit the timber industry. Take this show with a grain of salt on how the timber industry really works.

I sure have to agree with you 3855, though here where I grew up logging in Idaho I do know a bunch of folks just like those portrayed and many of the same intelligence level. Most of folks in the business have to be pretty savy to stay in business and our logging here is disappearing fast. Over the past 15 years our economy is switching from logging to tourist industries.

As far as steep I've always told folks that there's only two directions in this country, straight up and straight down.

I think the Ax Men show is a concerted effort to make the contractors on this show look stupid. --------------^ My sentiments exactly. I too live in NW Oregon and hoped this would be a good show when I saw it promoted. Unfortunately, I watched the first episode and that was enough for me. I have not watched it since.,,,,

i would be inclined to agree. all the loggers that i have met or work with understand what it takes to survive and take risks, but that is what it requires in the profession to survive. timber prices are low right now and it takes a higher efficiency to stay alive. i have to agree that browning seems more representative of the general population. the last thing that the logging/land management industry needs right now is the general public thinking that we are a bunch of idiots taking undue risks and destroying the land. its hard enough to cut the timber already here with all the restrictions from the "greenies" and tree huggers

I haven't watched the show for the past month. From the sounds of it, I'm not missing much.

As far as making loggers look stupid and portraying them in a bad light, I guess it's possible to make anybody seem stupid by editing the footage and only showing things from a certain point of view. Somebody with a video camera could make me look pretty stupid if they wanted to, if they followed me around for a week. To me, the narrator sounds pretty ignorant every time he calls a grapple a "claw", but I suppose that's to be expected.

Logging doesn't pay what it used to compared to other jobs. I used to work in the woods, but don't anymore. It's not that I don't enjoy it... it's that I got tired of long hours away from home each day, for no more pay and benefits than I could have made closer to home working in construction. Because of the low pay, some loggers are not exactly what you'd call "cream of the crop". One of the contractors here has had to, on occasion, shut down sides due to guys not showing up for work for whatever reason (drugs, jail, drunkenness). It seems that anybody with a pulse that can catch the crummy most mornings passes for an employee, with some outfits.

That said, there are some really outstanding guys that still work in the woods, who I'm be proud to say I've known and learned from. I know truck drivers that could have done anything they chose to do, and they choose to haul logs because they love it.

I don't get that channel, so have never seen the show. It does amaze me though to see the political ads that lament the loss of jobs to overseas.

Do we forget who iti was that gave us the "forest plan" in the 90's that nearly destroyed the logging industry in the northwest and wiped out many mill towns? All while the US bought lumber from Canada and Russia instead?

These were good jobs for regular folks who hadn't had 6 years of computer programming training. And the logging was great for elk habitat. Now the forests are so dang thick you can hardly hunt. And this will get worse until the next big fire clears them out.

What a waste!

I don't get that channel, so have never seen the show. It does amaze me though to see the political ads that lament the loss of jobs to overseas.

Do we forget who iti was that gave us the "forest plan" in the 90's that nearly destroyed the logging industry in the northwest and wiped out many mill towns? All while the US bought lumber from Canada and Russia instead?

These were good jobs for regular folks who hadn't had 6 years of computer programming training. And the logging was great for elk habitat. Now the forests are so dang thick you can hardly hunt. And this will get worse until the next big fire clears them out.

What a waste!
I agree. My dad lost a good job in the 90's because of the spotted owl scare.