Every time I try to load if I push the shell in too far and the loading gate closes I can not load any more shells. Is this normal? The only way I can load 6 is to leave the shell sticking out a little and push it in with the next. Bought it new and has always done this.

Thats fairly normal. Usually you can force a round in after the loading gate closes, some of the rifles are tighter than others. I think just about everyone loads just like you, pushing in the last round loaded with the next round. In my case, the 30-30 cases are small enough that I have trouble with the last round I load, loading gate is too small for any but my pinky finger.
Andy

Same with Me.It's a P I A,but it works.
I hunt the Big Woods,so I only have to load 3 rounds;a little easier.
Frank

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Andy has it pegged. That's the way we load'em.

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If the loading gate has closed, push it open with the nose of a round at a right angle to the reciever. It will open easily and now the bullet is right behind the previous round. Now just push forward and it will slide right in.

While we're at it, does it seem that 94s load easier than 336s?

Ric

Hi, I am new to this forum and in fact I just bought my first Win 94 which was made in '67. It is a 30-30. This may seem like a stupid question, but......... When I load a cartridge through the loading gate, the cartridge does not go in far enough to allow it to be picked up and chambered. Is it normal to have to push the cartridge farther into the magazine with another cartridge? My thumb (and even my pinky) is just too fat to push the round in far enough.

When you load the rounds, the rim of the last round tends to catch on the receiver, which makes it hard to push the round in far enough. If you can push the round in far enough for the loading gate to close like it does with no rounds loaded, it should cycle. I know what you mean about fingers, my .45-70 loads more easily than my .30-30 and much much more easily than my .357.
Andy

OK, well, I have no problem getting the rim past the receiver and the gate closes. But unless I push it farther, about a 1/2 inch, with another cartridge it will not cycle. I took it to a gunsmith and he said that was perfectly normal. There is a raised "lump" on the front of the link which acts as a stop. You have to push the cartridge past that and it catches the rim and holds it in the magazine. If you dont get the cartridge past that lump it will not cycle. It just seems odd that they made the port so small that it is so difficult to get the cartridge in deep enough.
Ron

While we're at it, does it seem that 94s load easier than 336s?
Mine does, but it is older too, so maybe the spring isn't as stiff.

Ron, I was looking at my 94 and I cannot duplicate your problem. If you open the lever on your rifle about 1/3, you can watch what is happening when you load a round into the magazine, perhaps that will help you figure out what is happening. On my 94, with the lever open enough to see into the action, but not enough to start moving the lifter, when the round is loaded, it pops back, towards the bolt onto the lifter as soon as the loading gate snaps shut. If I open the lever, the lifter then lifts the cartridge so it can be loaded into the chamber. I cannot see what would stop that from happening on a 94...
Andy

Andy, you are a genius. You were able to understand my problem and explain to me what is happening. I now see what is happening. When I slide the cartridge into the loading port, the rim of the cartridge is hanging up on the forward edge of the loading gate. When the loading gate closes, it drags the rim of the cartridge with it preventing the cartridge from poping back as you described. I was hung up on the idea that the cartridge had to be pushed farther in meaning farther forward. That is not the case, it needs to be pushed farther in meaninglaterally or perpendicular to the side of the receiver. There must be a burr on the front of the loading gate causing this. Do you think that it would be safe to lightly file the front edge of the loading gate to remove the burr?