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DOGMAN
04-12-2008, 07:10 AM
What can you guys tell me about a TC HAWKEN? Are they any good , Value , durability...etc...

I just started out in BP Shooting & I picked this one up for $100.00. The gun is being sold by someone going thru a divorce. The gun looks new, & he mounted a scope where the rear sight should be. I would like to put the sight back & get rid of the scope. The only thing missing is the NIPPLE, it looks like these just screw on....can I but these direct from TC.....? Let me know if this is a good buy & a good rifle. I have a Lman Deerstalker(?) which I love because its really short....nice blance. Its a fun hobby!

ribbonstone
04-12-2008, 07:26 AM
Like everything else T/C made, those are well made of good strong steel and worth considerably more than $100. Hawken usually had pretty decent wood....the older the rifle, the niceer the wood seemed to be (but that's true of nearly every gun). Can certainly remove the scope, get a set of sights from T/C and a nipple.

Can usually find what you need here as well:
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/(S(5fmfbj55negnyv55coirv445))/index.aspx

DOGMAN
04-12-2008, 07:34 AM
Yeah- this gun is +15years old...... I have a serial number- any way to find out the age?

MAINER
04-12-2008, 10:47 AM
If that gun looks new, and you want it, buy it at that price for sure. Nipples don't cost much, get a bunch of them.

Jack Monteith
04-12-2008, 10:48 AM
The T/C factory records were lost in a fire, IIRC, so dating one by the serial number is a bit tricky. There's a few fellows over at the Muzzleloading forum that can give you an educated guess. T/C made a few changes over the years that can put your rifle into a certain era.

http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/fusionbb.php?

Bye
Jack

Gil Martin
04-12-2008, 05:31 PM
You did very well. I found a T/C Hawken flintlock for that price and still have it. All the best...
Gil

@bullseye
04-12-2008, 05:41 PM
The serial # on mine reads K25038. I don't know for sure but I think my dad bought it at least 20 years ago. It has a lobo 1 1/2 x scope and a sling. The TC Hawken is the only muzzleloader I know that you can put together completely with replacement and upgrade parts. There's a variety of barrels avaiable or it wouldn't be much trouble to have one made. Obviously they were and still are very popular. Not really a correct copy of a real old time Hawken rifle from the fur trade era tho.

Swampman
04-13-2008, 05:17 PM
The K in the serial number means it was built from a kit. You can get a sight on ebay. There are a couple of hole spacings for rear sights, depending on when it was made.

54cal
04-16-2008, 04:35 PM
I have a T/C 54 cal with a serial number of 15xx. I think it is safe to assume it was from the first year production of them. The quality of finish and wood is still excellent. I bought it new too!

kramsey
04-16-2008, 05:01 PM
I picked up a pristine 50cal. T/C Hawken from a local gun dealer several years ago for 180.00, still feel like I got a very good deal. If you can get one for 100.00 BUY IT. The values are going up on Hawken guns in original unaltered condition.

cowpoke1955
05-11-2008, 01:41 PM
I bought a couple of T/C Hawkens off one of the auction sites for $200 each. Both were in very good condition and I consider them a steal. A new one goes for o$670 at Dixie. DO NOT wait on this offer. Sounds like one of them "once in a lifetime" deals.

Mr. C
05-26-2008, 02:44 PM
I picked up an unfired .54 T/C Hawken a couple years back. I took a big white-tail doe last fall with it. No complaints here.
--I'm a rock shooter by choice, but I had to try it out anyway. Nice rifle.
--Can say when I sell, I'll ask a good deal more than $100. You got a good bargain.

Kip
05-31-2008, 06:36 AM
Hey guys I'm recent into muzzleloading and have an older TC hawken .50. I was doing some research on what could be loaded into it and it seems the heaviest thing I can find is a .458 535 gr bullet in a sabot. Is this really the heaviest bullet I can fire? does anyone have any experience with it? any load data?
Thanks
Kip

Jack Monteith
05-31-2008, 08:15 AM
A friend gave me some 470 grain .508 conicals he cast in a Gonic mould, IIRC. They were fairly accurate with 90 grains of Goex FFg, minute of Bambi for sure. Recoil is in the "kills at both ends" category, :eek: Gonic is long out of business, AFAIK. I'm casting and shooting a Lyman 508656 395 grain conical now, with better accuracy. Recoil is still plenty, and I think you'll find recoil with a 500+ grain bullet brutal.

Most old T/C Hawkens had a 1:48" twist, which may not be fast enough for a .458 535 grain bullet. Accuracy might be dreadful.

Bye
Jack

armstrong45
05-31-2008, 10:42 AM
--I'm a rock shooter by choice, but I had to try it out anyway. Nice rifle.


"rock shooter..."?

Jack Monteith
05-31-2008, 10:44 AM
Rock shooter. Flinter, flintlock, rock starter, etc. ;)

Bye
Jack

54cal
05-31-2008, 03:16 PM
Most old T/C Hawkens had a 1:48" twist, which may not be fast enough for a .458 535 grain bullet. Accuracy might be dreadful.

Bye
Jack


It "might" stabilize with a heavy load but then it would kick badly too. A 54 1/48 will stabilize a maxiball style 530 grain pill (they make a 430 and 530 grain one) but when you set it off with 120 grains a FF it REALLY gets your attention. The larger bore slug is shorter at same weight. Never used a 530 on game but I have no doubt it would be extremely effective on very larger game. Even the 430's are real attention getters when you drop the hammer with a 120 grain load. (which TC "rated" the gun at) That is the only ML I have with a recoil bad on its stock like a modern HiPower rifle. The stock steel butt plate was brutal with heavy loads.

armstrong45
05-31-2008, 03:29 PM
Rock shooter. Flinter, flintlock, rock starter, etc. ;)
Got it! Thanks... I'm a greenhorn at this. :o

Mr. C
05-31-2008, 04:00 PM
"rock shooter..."?

That's a flintlock. Sorry about the confusion. Uses a "rock" instead of a cap.;)

Markopolo
06-23-2008, 08:11 PM
I'd like to get in on this thread too !......My Hawken is a cap-lock also,......#K13648.

50cal.

I'm a "newbee, and am really loving this thing ! ! !

I'm "Thirsty" for knowledge...............

Marko................

markkw
06-23-2008, 08:23 PM
I'd like to get in on this thread too !......My Hawken is a cap-lock also,......#K13648.

50cal.

I'm a "newbee, and am really loving this thing ! ! !

I'm "Thirsty" for knowledge...............

Marko................


Mark,

I just sent you an email reference your PM. If you don't get it, let me know or just call me.

Mark