Winchester cataloged these, I believe, several years back. But I've never been able to lay my hands on one. Anybody ever see or hear of an actual rifle?? :confused:

Winchester cataloged these, I believe, several years back. But I've never been able to lay my hands on one. Anybody ever see or hear of an actual rifle?? :confused:


They cataloged them for two years in a row .

And each year I would have my dealer contact them to see when they should be at the distributers .

And each year they told us the same thing ! "At this time we will not be bringing them into production".

It's kinda like the Marlin deal when they cataloged the Marlin Model 1895RL , this thing was supposed to be chambered to handle the 480 Ruger and 475 Linebaugh . And guesse what when we called Marlin about this one they said the same BS as winchester had said earlier about the Model 94 in 480 Ruger !

Now personally I would rather have had the Marlin , but the Winchester would have been nice also !

Used to be the only game in town was a Puma 92 in 480 Ruger and I bought one of those NIB , but kept it a year and never fired it ! Just never could get into the Puma .
And if I am not mistaken Puma has quit chambering for the 480 Ruger also.

Why do gun companies do that????? :mad::(:confused:

I'd much rather have them manufacture a gun then announce it out of the blue than announce something really interesting then stand the public up on it.

Bummer. :(

I suspect that there was questions of action strength after they though about it for a while. Especially 475 Linebaugh with some commercail ammo being pretty warm pressure wise. A 50 S&W in a lever rifle would be a sweet round to play with (not 500S&W)

My 16" bbl Lagacy/Puma lever is 'bout all you want,when fireing the 360gr hardcast,max loaded, .454 Casull's.

I don't think that even one weapon was released to the public in the .480 chambering. -----pruhdlr

I'd be happy if Ruger offered one in their lever action rifles, altho the .475 would be fun.....

When you go to a larger caliber round like that in a lever gun you have two things to contend with. One is the pressure or round for obvious reason but then the other issue is this pressure is amplified on bolt due to larger diameter cartridge so a 45000 PSI load on a 480/475 will strain bolt more than same pressure loading on a 454 or 44mag.

When you go to a larger caliber round like that in a lever gun you have two things to contend with. One is the pressure or round for obvious reason but then the other issue is this pressure is amplified on bolt due to larger diameter cartridge so a 45000 PSI load on a 480/475 will strain bolt more than same pressure loading on a 454 or 44mag.

Yeah......but the 94 has been chambered in some very stout rounds............ 444 Marlin, 356 Win, 375 Win.............if it handles those, then the 480 Ruger oughta be child's play, right??

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And don't forget the 450 Marlin. And the 450 was not even on a big bore receiver! Explain that!

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Yeah......but the 94 has been chambered in some very stout rounds............ 444 Marlin, 356 Win, 375 Win.............if it handles those, then the 480 Ruger oughta be child's play, right??


Not really because they have a smaller case diameter at base or lower pressure or both. The bigger the case diameter, the more pressure it puts on bolt than a smaller one at any given pressure

I looked up two for the cartridges you used to compare- 444,375win the 375win was the highest at 46000 CUP! That to me was at the Top end of the pressure rating for the '94 action I think the 480 works at or around there as well. You have less chamber mental left with the 480 of course so I could see why they didn't make them on the '94 action!
The '92 action is alot stronger as can be seen by chambering it in 454 Casull. I have one in a Puma and it still as tight as the day I bought it with many heavy rounds through it! They do make these in 480 as well.

I have a Win '94 in 45LC and have broke it with some stout 45 LC loads. I don't have exact data but they where probably in the 35-39000 psi region! That's quite heavy for the 45LC! I now run my reloads for it about 1 gr lower then max in the Ruger only loading! This still gives me some very potent rounds!

I looked up two for the cartridges you used to compare- 444,375win the 375win was the highest at 46000 CUP! That to me was at the Top end of the pressure rating for the '94 action I think the 480 works at or around there as well. You have less chamber mental left with the 480 of course so I could see why they didn't make them on the '94 action!


It is not the chamber walls that is the issue but rather bolt because as I said earlier, a bigger diameter case place more pressure on bolt than a smaller on so at 40,000 PSI a 480 is going to exert more force on bolt than a 45 colt

"The SAAMI Maximum Average Pressure for the .375 Winchester is 52,000 C.U.P."
According to the Accurate Arms reloading manual.
Accurate listed the same 52,000 CUP for the 307 and 356 Winchester cartridges.
I should point out that the 375, 307, and 356 were chambered in the beefed up receiver model of the 94, not the original slab sided version.

A 375 has a case diameter of .420 and if you figure on .015 walls that means .39 diameter of pressure area or about .12 sq in of surface area of pressure area at 52000 that mean about 6000 lbs of pressure on bolt. A 480 has a case diameter of .504 and with same .015 wall we have about .475 dia pressure area or about .18 sq in and with same pressure it would exert about 9000 lbs of pressure on bolt or about 50% more. A 480 would only need 34,000 CUP to equal same force on bolt as a 375 at 52,000 CUP.

.454 Casull @ 60K psi in a '92 = OK

60K psi in a 94 action = ka-blewie -----pruhdlr

For what it is worth, 60,000 PSI in a 454 places about 8300 lbs of bolt pressure or about 8% less than a 480 at 52,000 PSI

Also........for what it's worth..........a '92 action is > 8% stronger than a Win 94 action. -----pruhdlr