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FODzilla
05-15-2008, 07:55 PM
its the one listed in my signature. S/N is 6534900. any idea where i could find that info? i know it is sometime between 1998 and 2004

sass93
05-15-2008, 09:44 PM
its the one listed in my signature. S/N is 6534900. any idea where i could find that info? i know it is sometime between 1998 and 2004I don't know of any source to pin that down more specifically unless you find others that bought the same model new and you could compare serial numbers. Most on-line sources stop at the 5 million range. I'd estimate it to be nearer 2004 than 1998. You might ask over at Leverguns.com (http://levergunscommunity.com/viewforum.php?f=1), there are a number of guys that regularly post there with such vintage 94s.

JBledsoe
05-16-2008, 08:06 PM
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That's easy, it was made in 2004. Does it have "Winchester trademark licensed from Olin corp." stamped on the barrel ?

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FODzilla
05-17-2008, 03:53 PM
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That's easy, it was made in 2004. Does it have "Winchester trademark licensed from Olin corp." stamped on the barrel ?

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sure does.

how did you figure that out?

sass93
05-17-2008, 05:51 PM
sure does.
how did you figure that out?I just saw your list on another sight & came back to post a link; and am curious as to your source. Everything I've read sez USRA wasn't precise with production dates; shipping, yes 'cause they have to be; but I understood movement from production to warehouse records were "iffy". ???

JBledsoe
05-18-2008, 11:44 AM
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That is correct, exact production dates are "iffy" and USRA did not keep shipping date records in list form. So, the dates on that list could be off by several months. For that reason I have been very hesitant in posting the DOM list for late 94s.

The notice of license was not stamped on barrels before 2004.

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sass93
05-20-2008, 04:51 PM
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That is correct, exact production dates are "iffy" and USRA did not keep shipping date records in list form. So, the dates on that list could be off by several months. For that reason I have been very hesitant in posting the DOM list for late 94s.

The notice of license was not stamped on barrels before 2004.

.Thanks, and I've been doing some reading that indicates even Winchester wasn't too precise and some dates could be off from previously "thought to be cast in stone" dating. But, for a guidance issue, any is better than none.

QuarterChoke
05-20-2008, 09:03 PM
I have a 25-35 M94 that I purchased new at the end of December 2005, serial number 6,578,XXX. It was almost certainly produced in 2005, and being 44,000 numbers higher that the rifle in question, makes that gun a probable 2004 production.

I fail to understand why recent production numbers are so messed up. I thought that the 1968 Gun Control Act made it mandatory to record the data on every firearm which was "created". Legally, that should mean that the firearm would be recorded when the serial number is stamped on the receiver. It would seem that the law would have remedied all the previous sloppy book work.

JBledsoe
05-21-2008, 04:02 PM
I fail to understand why recent production numbers are so messed up. I thought that the 1968 Gun Control Act made it mandatory to record the data on every firearm which was "created". Legally, that should mean that the firearm would be recorded when the serial number is stamped on the receiver. It would seem that the law would have remedied all the previous sloppy book work.

Think about what you are saying. Would YOU want to dig thru all those records to find a gun and when it was shipped? Since I have been keeping records of serial numbers, from 1980 to end of production in 2006, USRA produced over 1.5 MILLION Models 94. Then add in all the other models produced. That is a lot of records! The factory has no interest in historical data, their interest is in production. What was produced last year or before is of no interest or concern. Every gun sold by a dealer has a data sheet that the buyer fills out at time of purchase, but just try to find one that is a few years old. If a dealer cannot find one record in a few thousand, how can a factory find one in a few million? Remington and Marlin use code dates stamped on the gun to indicate when the gun was made. Winchester was never that sophisticated.

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QuarterChoke
05-21-2008, 04:17 PM
I concur that a comprehensive record of serial numbers would be huge, but the starting serial number on 1 January and the final one on 31 December of each year shouldn't be beyond their capability. I am not talking about lettering every gun.

JBledsoe
05-22-2008, 08:10 PM
I hear you, but what I'm saying is that USRA had no interest in recording anything of historical significance. If it was not mandatory or profitable they just were not interested. If you ever tried to get even the most basic info on a gun then you know what I mean. Data on yesterday's gun was like yesterday's newspaper, just something to line the bird cage or wrap the fish.

Some of us did keep records, but the records are not 100% accurate. We were forced to rely on the distributors for the information and because of that the dates could be of by several months. For that reason I would not post the DOM list that I have for late production Model 94. Several of you finally prevailed and I did post it.


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