I`ve been thinking about a Cimarron P in 45colt or 44 spec. I was wondering about cylinder throat and barrel tollerances or do ya have to buy one and have smith get everything right.

Burch

They're Uberti-made, and the only extensive experience I've had with a Uberti has been with my Flat Top Target revolver in .45 Colt. It is the most accurate revolver I've ever owned, and has needed absolutely nothing done to it -- except to be loaded and shot!

They're not intentionally made bad but a "lemon" occasionally shows up. That's true with any manufacturer so it is not "cast in concrete" that the first thing you do with a new Cimarron is take it to a 'smith. My Model P is chambered for .44 WCF and it shot well from the start right out of the box. Before you decide to visit a 'smith, be sure to shoot it a bit to let everything break-in. Actions tend to smooth out as things wear in so be patient. Word of advice about their "charcoal blue", it is very pretty but not as durable as modern blue so you make your choice and pony up your money. Hope this helps.

I agree with ya Marshal totally. I`ve owned one model P in 45colt and liked it. You have to shoot these pistols in to get `em to work right. My main concern was about bore and cylinder throat dia.`s and if they are right or need to be sent out to get `em right. The Cimarron web site does have a spec page that gives bore groove dia but says nothing about the cylinder throats. I guess your only hope if they aren`t right is to get one with undersized throats and have `em opened up. Also, you said yours is 44 WCF. Are these getting tighter groups than a 44spec. ? I`m also wondering if the Cimarron 44 special`s are built on a big 44 Mag frame or a lighter frame.

Burch

I have two Model Ps with 7-1/2" barrels in 44 Spl. Both shoot extremely well, but I do have one of them for sale so possibly better to listen to others in this instance. I ordered some spare parts and screws from Cimarron and got rapid response, also ordered two standard length base pins to eliminate the two position safety cylinder pins they came with. I installed Wolff springs so the only non-coil spring left is the mainspring. Haven't needed any of the spare parts yet. I loved to shoot clay pigeons (not flying !) at 50 yards and watch some of the young guys with wondernines gape at the old boomer.

. . . My main concern was about bore and cylinder throat dia.`s and if they are right or need to be sent out to get `em right. The Cimarron web site does have a spec page that gives bore groove dia but says nothing about the cylinder throats. I guess your only hope if they aren`t right is to get one with undersized throats and have `em opened up. Also, you said yours is 44 WCF. Are these getting tighter groups than a 44spec. ? I`m also wondering if the Cimarron 44 special`s are built on a big 44 Mag frame or a lighter frame.

Burch
Have not heard of any problems with Cimarron's bore and cylinder throat dimensions but maybe some of the others will comment. You might also post your concerns on www.gunfighter.com (http://www.gunfighter.com) to reach a larger CAS group. Your concern might be linked to problems with early Ruger revolvers as I understand some of them had undersized cylinder throats and accuracy problems. I cannot specifically say that my .44 WCF shoots any tighter groups than a .44 Special. Too many variables here e.g. the gun, loads, bullet, and most of all the shooter. I have an Armi San Marco .44 Special also (my first SA clone) and suffice to say, both shoot 3-4" size groups using reloads with my own cast bullets at 25 yards which will keep everything pretty well in the 10 ring if I am doing my part. Understand that few SAs can call themselves "match" guns so disregard what you see in the movies. To my knowledge, all Cimarron frames are the same size, just like the originals, with minor differences like in the top strap. Ruger revolvers have large and small frame variations and their recent New Vaqueros have a smaller frame than the 'Hawk frames. Hope this helps.

. . . I ordered some spare parts and screws from Cimarron and got rapid response, also ordered two standard length base pins to eliminate the two position safety cylinder pins they came with. I installed Wolff springs so the only non-coil spring left is the mainspring. Haven't needed any of the spare parts yet. . .
Smart move, have done the same with my SAs. Have two cylinder stops, hands w/springs, base pin catch assemblys, trigger/bolt springs, various screws, and a hammer spring. The design is so user friendly that even I can slick up the internals and replace non-critical parts. Unless it involves parts fitting, I can usually be up and shooting again in under an hour. You'll be glad you have parts on hand in the event anything breaks. Oh, BTW, some shooters simply grind off the tail end of the base pin and lock in on it's outer groove.

I grind the other end off Rugers so the empties will fully eject and I can remove the pin, but the Cimarron pins were so cheap I couldn't say no.