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MrJim
05-20-2008, 03:22 PM
When I was in the USMC I recall buying up some .44 Mag FJM Truncated Cone; seems like it was Remington...now this would have been 1984-85 for a 7 1/2" SS Redhawk long since gone.

Recently I was hunting around for this load but was unable to find~just one of those lack of demand things?

I have a 5 1/2" SS Redhawk, thinking about blowing the dust off and trying out some different ammo in it..

Thanks

Jim

faucettb
05-20-2008, 04:07 PM
Jim I handgun hunted for years with the 44 mag. I found that hardcast lead bullets work exceptionally well and far better than jacketed bullets.

If you cast them yourself or use some of Marshall's excellent bullets he lists on the Beartooth bullet side of the forum I think you'll find that cast is the way to go for hunting and also much less expensive for plinking.

I shot a 255 grain Kieth style gas checked hardcast from a Lee mold at 1250 fps from my 5.5 inch Redhawk and 1350 fps from my 7.5 inch Super Redhawk. This speed kills very well (19 black bear total) and is easy to shoot and exceptionally accurate.

Check our Loadswap section at the top of the page for loads.

Cheezywan
05-20-2008, 04:55 PM
I'm not sure why a Truncated Cone bullet ever came to exist? What was the problem that it solved?

Marketing "hype" I suspect. Nose shape would have played into ammo for self-feeding firearms. Not revolvers though!

Good question.

Cheezywan

jwp475
05-20-2008, 06:02 PM
Nothing wrong with a truncated cane aslong as it has a large meplat. The 425 grain bullet that is loaded in the 500 JRH factory loads sports a truncated cone with a meplat 78% of the bullets diameter

bfrshooter
05-20-2008, 08:13 PM
But it HAS solved a problem. They are much more accurate then the semi wadcutter in any revolver.

Whitworth
05-21-2008, 05:10 AM
Nothing wrong with a truncated cane aslong as it has a large meplat. The 425 grain bullet that is loaded in the 500 JRH factory loads sports a truncated cone with a meplat 78% of the bullets diameter

I agree with this statement wholeheartedly.

Mr.Jim -- looks like you and I were in the Corps at the same time! Who were you with if you don't mind me asking?

MrJim
05-21-2008, 01:12 PM
I agree with this statement wholeheartedly.

Mr.Jim -- looks like you and I were in the Corps at the same time! Who were you with if you don't mind me asking?

2/10 Camp Lejeune~I was a radioman for artillery, usually FDC though had my occasional forays attached with our FOs alongside grunts...

MrJim
05-21-2008, 01:15 PM
Jim I handgun hunted for years with the 44 mag. I found that hardcast lead bullets work exceptionally well and far better than jacketed bullets.

If you cast them yourself or use some of Marshall's excellent bullets he lists on the Beartooth bullet side of the forum I think you'll find that cast is the way to go for hunting and also much less expensive for plinking.

I shot a 255 grain Kieth style gas checked hardcast from a Lee mold at 1250 fps from my 5.5 inch Redhawk and 1350 fps from my 7.5 inch Super Redhawk. This speed kills very well (19 black bear total) and is easy to shoot and exceptionally accurate.

Check our Loadswap section at the top of the page for loads.

Not a handloader~these sorta loads available commercially? I remember Garrett (still in business?) tailoring some unique loads...

jwp475
05-21-2008, 01:31 PM
Garrett Ammo, Buffalo Bore, Grizzly Ammo, and Federal Cast Core

MrJim
05-21-2008, 03:07 PM
Garrett Ammo, Buffalo Bore, Grizzly Ammo, and Federal Cast Core

Great~Thanks!

MikeG
05-21-2008, 03:32 PM
The Federal CastCore load will probably be the most widely available, but any of them are just a few mouse clicks away.

My hunting loads are a near-duplicate of the Federal loading (in several calibers) with Marshall's excellent bullets.

T.R.
05-21-2008, 07:31 PM
I never hunted with a 44MAG handgun but this older Marlin carbine toppled many coastal blacktails for me. This buck fell to a 200 grain hollow tip by Hornady. This was their .430 design prior to XTP series but it got the job done.

TR

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MrJim
05-22-2008, 03:19 PM
I never hunted with a 44MAG handgun but this older Marlin carbine toppled many coastal blacktails for me. This buck fell to a 200 grain hollow tip by Hornady. This was their .430 design prior to XTP series but it got the job done.

TR



I'd like a .44Mag levergun but the ones I've picked up seem too small~I'm 6'2" / 260~maybe get a custom stock to increase the length? I'll have to check in with the levergun section...

stalker76z
05-30-2008, 11:10 PM
I'm not sure why a Truncated Cone bullet ever came to exist? What was the problem that it solved?

Marketing "hype" I suspect. Nose shape would have played into ammo for self-feeding firearms. Not revolvers though!

Good question.

Cheezywan
I can't give you a definite answer on why the "T.C.", but I do know that they are easier to clean off after reloading them. Ya, call it "anal", but I don't particularly like to have dust or grit adhere to my bullet by leaving the grease on a cast lead bullet, so I do wipe every one of them with a turkish towel. It gives me something to do when I'm watching the Friday night fights on television. Note: Make sure that you use an old turkish towel, because from experience, my wife would "NOT BE PLEASED WITH ME" she couldn't get grease stains out of one of her towels that she had not yet relegated to me as a "rag". Seriously though, I would rather use a Keith type bullet with a sharp square flat meplat and wide as possible for a revolver. I'm a firm believer in that design for hunting -----much better than a jacketed bullet. A .44 Mag is a rather large diameter bullet anyway and will cause hemorrhage and shock to the game animal as well as taking out large supporting bones in the skeletal system.

ironhead7544
05-31-2008, 06:30 AM
The truncated cone bullets were designed to knock over the heavy silhouette metal targets. They are still out there if you want to handload. They werent designed for hunting. They are also accurate at long range. Hornandy has a nice 240 gr 44s that will dupe the old factory load. I think Federal made one with nickel cases.