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cobhc686
05-20-2008, 09:10 PM
im looking at getting a 92fs (most likely the stainless model) soon but had a few questions. the main one is on mag size, i see they sell mags that hold 10 or 15 but is the gun the same? are the mags interchangeable or am i stuck with the size i choose?
faucettb
05-21-2008, 04:54 AM
Welcome to the forum cob. Rules are simple, be nice and join in.
The mags are interchangeable. Some states still limit mag capacity to ten rounds and some allow large capacity mags. It depends on your local regulations.
coyote_243
05-21-2008, 07:46 AM
One word of warning on the beretta 92's. You can remove the upper half of the pistol in about a third of a second, and it doesnt matter if the saftey is on or if the hammer is cocked. With the thumb of the right hand, press the button in on the left side of the frame that is just above the trigger guard while using your index finger to push the frame relese lever to the straight down position. Now just pinch the slide and pull it foreward. Done, pistol disembled. from a cleaning point of view its awesome, from a weapons retention, and carry point of view its terrible. There is also an unconfirmed rumor that a sharp palm strike to the muzzle forcing the barel back into the slide will break the firinging pin. I've never tried that. While acting as a mp in the navy we were taught to strip the uppers off the pistols as fast as possible though.
jodum
05-21-2008, 10:52 AM
I have several police officer friends who carry and love them. They are just to big for my small hands. I would have to hold it with one hand and pull the trigger with the other.:)
MrJim
05-21-2008, 01:09 PM
It's my favorite handgun~I've got the necessary big hands, and anyone getting close enough to strip the slide is going to have bigger problems...;)
cobhc686
05-21-2008, 03:54 PM
thanks for the info guys, anything else is appreciated.
crash8168
05-21-2008, 05:46 PM
One word of warning on the beretta 92's. You can remove the upper half of the pistol in about a third of a second, and it doesnt matter if the saftey is on or if the hammer is cocked. With the thumb of the right hand, press the button in on the left side of the frame that is just above the trigger guard while using your index finger to push the frame relese lever to the straight down position. Now just pinch the slide and pull it foreward. Done, pistol disembled. from a cleaning point of view its awesome, from a weapons retention, and carry point of view its terrible. There is also an unconfirmed rumor that a sharp palm strike to the muzzle forcing the barel back into the slide will break the firinging pin. I've never tried that. While acting as a mp in the navy we were taught to strip the uppers off the pistols as fast as possible though.
so i guess its not such a cool trick that guy pulled in lethal weapon when he stripped gibsons gun in one movement....
coyote_243
05-21-2008, 06:29 PM
thats how its done crash. For some of you like Mrjim, it isnt an issue. For me it was. As an mp I was in physical contact with the unlawfull and carring exposed. My gun was in reach of the desperate. I do not carry for fun, I carry for protection. I prefer to stack all the odds i can controll in my favor, thats why I choose not to carry a beretta 92/96
stinky
05-22-2008, 10:42 AM
everything that happens in the movies isn't true...IOW...come on now...it takes two hands to do that.
M1894
05-22-2008, 12:12 PM
everything that happens in the movies isn't true...IOW...come on now...it takes two hands to do that.
Coyote is right, I just tried it, and it is a lot eaiser than I thought. Like you I thought it was a Movie Stunt untill today.
mattsbox99
05-22-2008, 06:39 PM
It is a movie stunt... anybody with half a brain would pull the trigger.
cobhc686
05-26-2008, 06:38 PM
one more question guys, is there much of a difference between the stainless and blued versions as far as the durability of the finish?
mattsbox99
05-26-2008, 08:29 PM
Stainless is a lot more durable than blued steel, but you can fix blued steel. Stainless is much more brittle, although you won't notice it until about -20 F.
cobhc686
05-26-2008, 08:57 PM
well fortunately i dont live in an area that cold. but as far as scratches and what not the stainless is better?
mattsbox99
05-26-2008, 08:59 PM
Basically, yea.
Leanwolf
05-26-2008, 10:17 PM
As far as that "stripping off" the slide of a Beretta 92fs so very easily, when a bad guy grabs your pistol, I'd certainly love to hear one verified incident where that happened in real life, out on the street!
I say again, just one. Not some anecdote, not some movie b.s., not some training stuff, but where a bad guy did it to a person holding a loaded 92fs with the intention of killing the bad guy.
I've had a lot of experience also with the Beretta 92fs, 1988 through 1997, Los Angeles Sheriffs Dept., where it gets "up close & personal" every day, in one of the roughest counties in the U.S. The 92fs is the Dept. issue, and of the 8,100+/- regular LASD Deputies, plus 900+/- sworn Reserve Deputies, not once has any bad guy "stripped the slide off" of a Deputy's pistol. I assure you, that would have ended up with the bad guy on a stainless steel autopsy table at the L.A. County Morgue, had a bad guy tried it.
In real life out on the streets, if a bad guy has some intention of "going for your gun," he'll be trying to take it away from you to kill you with it. He'll not be trying that "stripping" stunt, because in real life, about the time he makes that move, he'll have a couple of Plus P hollow points in his body. He wants your gun as a weapon, not a handfull of parts.
Another thing. How many bad guys can instantly look at a Beretta 92fs, recognize it, and then say, "Aha! A 92fs nine!! Hey, dude, watch this!!" :eek:
Hmmmmmmm.
In real life, if you like the 92fs, buy it, practice with it, and be aware enough of your surroundings to not let a bad guy get so close to you that he can disarm you... or, maybe having seen "LETHAL WEAPON," strip the slide.
Again as for an actual "stripping the slide" incident, please give me a verifiable source I can check. :confused:
BTW, you can NOT strip the Beretta 92fs slide when there is a loaded magazine in the pistol.
L.W.
SKRALOGY
06-01-2008, 12:02 PM
Heres the truth it may sound weird but its true. GET A TAURUS 92 OR 100. you are going to get almost the same gun that beretta will offer plus you get a frame mounted safety that can be cocked and locked and an integrated lock. plus its like 250 bucks cheaper. any beretta after market piece will usually fit on these.
go for the 100 with adj sights they have it in stainless and pearl grips whatever you like they got it.
oh and LIFETIME GUARANTEE beretta doesn't have that its OBVIOUS,TAURUS
SKRALOGY
06-01-2008, 12:09 PM
[QUOTE=coyote_243;345226]One word of warning on the beretta 92's. You can remove the upper half of the pistol in about a third of a second, and it doesnt matter if the saftey is on or if the hammer is cocked. With the thumb of the right hand, press the button in on the left side of the frame that is just above the trigger guard while using your index finger to push the frame relese lever to the straight down position. Now just pinch the slide and pull it foreward. Done, pistol disembled. from a cleaning point of view its awesome, from a weapons retention, and carry point of view its terrible. There is also an unconfirmed rumor that a sharp palm strike to the muzzle forcing the barel back into the slide will break the firinging pin. I've never tried that. While acting as a mp in the navy we were taught to strip the uppers off the pistols as fast as possible though.[/QUOTE
Facts not speculation. the slide coming off that easy is only a good thing there is no way anyone will ever pull that trick off EVER. If your dumb enough to try pulling of a guys slide which by the way cant be done if the guns loaded. also how does htting the barrel into the firing pin make any sense? the barrel has a hole in it the firing pin would go straight into that hole. the navy obviously didnt do a good teaching job. sorry
whitehunter35
06-03-2008, 07:30 AM
Gents,
Reference the question regarding finishes, my personal 92FS I've had since around 92, when it replaced the 92F, after it replaced the 92SB- back to about 85. My current FS model has been used often, and the grip area is somewhat washed and faded in the blue, giving it more or less a salt and pepper look. The slide and everything north of the grip looks like new.
My company gun, M9, shows more wear, actually, but I think that is from its trips in and out of the weapons rack in the arms room. It has a few scars, but not many.
The things I like most about these guns is that they work. In all the years since 85, I've only had one session of malfunctions with the F variety, and that was faulty ammo. Every other time I have practiced with these guns, including the thousands of rounds through the company gun, it's discharged. I've seen a few guns malfunction here and there, but that is either attributed to bad ammo, or a bad magazine. The current issue checkmate mags- well, have been a disappointment. I took my own beretta variety with me overseas. I've never had a checkmate lay down on me, but had seen a few instances that caused me concern.
Reference the stripping of the slide, seems a bit of a stretch to me, but I'm not saying that its not possible. It seems to me to be such a far flung notion, that it truly deserves no serious consideration. Reckon if an armed professional or a civilian that has concerns about his personal safety allows a fellow to get that close where the subject can lays hands upon his weapon- while its drawn- ought to have greater concerns than his gun coming apart. One man's opinion.
Best to ya'll.
Steve
SKRALOGY
06-13-2008, 05:02 PM
yeah the whole striping the slide thing is ridiculous. it cant be done when loaded. thats that
BUCKWILD357
06-20-2008, 07:29 PM
"yeah the whole striping the slide thing is ridiculous. it cant be done when loaded. thats that"
"BTW, you can NOT strip the Beretta 92fs slide when there is a loaded magazine in the pistol."
yea whatever have you people never played with your gun. it can be done. It stripes just as easy locked cocked and ready to rock as it does unloaded with mag removed. It can be done. Now is anyone stupid enough to let a bad guy get close enough to touch your gun. I hope not.
Also any auto can be disabled my hand. All you have to do is grab the slide and push it back a little. In doing this it disengages the firing pin. Dont let the bad guy get that close.
the 92 is a great gun. i have put around 20k rounds down range with only one malfunction. as "stove pipe" the barrel is almost silver but I wear it as a badge of honer.
THE ICEMAN
06-21-2008, 05:21 AM
I've got a model 90-two which is kind of a sexed up version of the 92. It has an integral light rail under the barrel & a cover for the rail if not being used. I love it.
Here's a look...http://www.beretta-e.org/images/thumb/e/e4/90-two-small-2.JPG/350px-90-two-small-2.JPG
coyote_243
06-23-2008, 01:12 PM
thanks for the backup buckwild. In defense of the beretta they are easy to shoot, and fairly accurate. I just dont like the open top, disassembly, or tendancy to jam once dirty. If everyone liked one particular brand or type of weapon we wouldnt have the diversity that we do have.
m141a
06-23-2008, 03:53 PM
Another option to consider is the little known Beretta 92FS VERTEC model
while it is the same size as the 92FS, it has a grip like a 1911. The front and rear sights are dovetailed, and barrel sits flush with the slide. accepts all Beretta 92 series mags. Accessory rail.
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1600/682422/1127617/322507334.jpg
This was my deceiding factor to go back to a Beretta. It is so much easier to control, aim and manipulate one handed.
cobhc686
06-24-2008, 01:03 PM
thanks for all the input. i ended up buying the 92fs in black and so far i really like it. Do you guys have any recommendations on holsters? not for carrying very regularly just for camping hiking etc.
m141a
06-24-2008, 02:12 PM
for inexpensive yet durable, you cannot go wrong with anything from FOBUS (http://www.fobusholster.com/catalog/)
jasonstalter
06-30-2008, 03:35 PM
I think this is my first post on this site, and the threads a little old...
But the comments from coyote243 about taking a Beretta apart during a weapons retention situation is exactly why you need to do your homework when buying a weapon and not listen to this .... Sounds like gunstore cowboys to me. I understand this can be done in a Leathal Weapon movie, however as someone who carries a Beretta everyday at work, has trained with one and now trians others with them, this is .... There has never been a documented case of this happening. If there was, and lawyers being what they are, Beretta would have changed the design a long time ago. Berettas take down is more secure than that of a Sig but you dont hear these stories about them.
One should be wary about anyone who takes weapons training advice from the movies.
J
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