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TEXXAS
05-26-2008, 07:43 PM
Take a look and tell me what yall think. I have had a few "shooters" at work and other places call B.S. on me when I talk about long range shooting with my handguns. I did a five part video on the "how to" of long-range iron sight revolver shooting. Let me know is it "good" "bad" or "ugly".
Thanks Chad
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jwp475
05-26-2008, 08:16 PM
I would like to hve seen a zoomed shot of the target before you started shooting and to have seen an up close of the hits after you finnished shooting. I liked it over all.
mattsbox99
05-26-2008, 09:04 PM
There is another guy here, bfrshooter, that shoots 200 yards with his. Its not out of the question to go up to 300 yards, but its not easy. I'm certainly happy with 100 yards from my GP100 and Taurus .44 Mag.
jwp475
05-26-2008, 09:08 PM
I have hit an Antelope silhouette at 494 yards with my 475 Linebaugh
Whitworth
05-27-2008, 05:32 AM
I like it! I agree with jwp though as a zoom in on the target at the beginning, and a close up of the target at the end would have been nice. Great shooting, by the way!
Yes, bfrshooter regularly shoots those distances as I have witnessed on many occasions. Folks think that you need hyper-velocity to shoot those distances -- wrong!
Here's a clip of me shooting my custom SRH in .475 Linebaugh at 100 yards offhand (at bfrshooter's place). If you listen carefully, you'll hear the clang of metal........ It's not 300 yards, but it is testimony to the fact that you are not limited to 50 yards with these big handguns.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f196/MarkoR/th_475LinebaughMPG.jpg (http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f196/MarkoR/?action=view¤t=475LinebaughMPG.flv)
sadsit
05-27-2008, 05:46 AM
I used to shoot at a 55 gallon drum out to 200 yards with my iron sighted Blackhawk 357, and I got to where I could hit it real regularly, much to the amazement of my friends, but I know I couldn't do it any more. My eyes are no where near as good, and I haven't come close to getting steady again after having major surgery.
I used to shoot 200 yards regularly from bench, but never tried 300 yards. I used a .44 mag S&W Performance Center model 29 with 2.5 X 8 scope loaded to 1365 fps and 240 gr. XTP. This combination would give me 2" at 100 yards and 6" at 200 yards....but sighted in at 100 yards, the drop at 200 yards was 31", and I figured the additional Kentucky windage I'd need for 300 yards would make picking the aim point pretty difficult and haphazzard so never tried it. Obviously others develop the capability to do it.
I've watched a few Silhouette guys with SA .44's shoot 200yd rams, that I would not want PO'd at me at 400yds. They would get you long before the barrel was hot.
faucettb
05-27-2008, 10:24 AM
I spent a bunch of years shooting those 200 meter metal targets and it's a bunch of fun. Always used a 44 mag. Killed one black bear at 200 yards with the Super Redhawk but that's as far as I've ever shot a game animal at with a handgun. Eyes are gone now for any long range open sight shooting.
Read a book about a fella shooting the 357 when it first came out out to a thousand yards. Looks like you'd have to hold just a little left of the moon to hit anything that far out. What the heck was his name. Born and raised in Montana and spent his life shooting stuff thrown in the air with S&W revolvers. Boy this getting old is the dickens. Of all the things I've lost I miss my mind the worst. Does Ed MacGivern bring back any memories.
I had to go look it up.
Edward ('Ed') McGivern (1874 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1874)-1957 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957)) from Lewistown, Montana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewistown%2C_Montana), was a famous exhibition shooter, shooting instructor and author of the book Fast and Fancy Revolver Shooting. McGivern also performed extensive research into the art of handgun shooting, particularly with the double action (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_action) revolver (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolver).
Exhibition shooting
Ed McGivern is renowned as one of the best handgunners that ever lived. His Guinness world record (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinness_world_record) for "The greatest rapid-fire feat" (set in August 20, 1932 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1932) at the Lead Clube Range (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lead_Clube_Range&action=edit&redlink=1), South Dakota (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Dakota)) still stands. This feat consisted of "firing two times from 15 feet five shots which could be covered by a silver half-dollar piece in 45/100's of a second".
Mr. McGivern was capable of many amazing shooting feats, most of them well documented in his book.<sup id="cite_ref-fast_0-0" class="reference">[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_McGivern#cite_note-fast-0)</sup> To name just a few:
He could break six simultaneously hand thrown clay pigeons (standard trap targets) in the air before they hit the ground.
He could hit a tin can hand thrown 20 ft. in the air six times before it hit the ground.
He could shoot-drive a tack or nail into wood.
He could shoot the spots out of playing cards, or even split a playing card edge on.
He could shoot a dime on the fly. All of these executed with either hand using a factory Smith & Wesson M&P (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_M%26P) double action revolver (puportedly his favorite handgun).
Competition shooter Jerry Miculek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Miculek) has attempted, and broken, some of McGivern's long standing records, such as the record for 60 shots fired from 10 revolvers. Miculek is one of the world's fastest revolver shooters, holding a number of records, such as 8 shots (from an 8 shot revolver) in 1 second, but his attempt to beat McGivern's 5 shot record resulted in a time of .57 seconds.<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference">[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_McGivern#cite_note-1)</sup> A testament to McGivern's ability was the fact that the 5 shot record was set in 1932, when McGivern was 58 years of age. Soon after that point, arthritis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthritis) ended McGivern's competitive shooting career.<sup id="cite_ref-fast_0-1" class="reference">[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_McGivern#cite_note-fast-0)</sup>
I've seen some of McGivern's demostrations via old video and the gentleman was a very unimpressive physical specimen, very nonchalant during the performance, but lighting fast. I've read both McGivern's and Miculet's books, even tried putting them under my pillow, but osmosis just doesn't work on this 'unipressive' physical specimen :o
Whitworth
05-27-2008, 11:12 AM
A .357 at 1,000 yards would be like lobbing mortar rounds! :D
slim 60
05-27-2008, 01:15 PM
oh yea ,, his dad clint an mom sara had complications of some religious kind..
last i heard he sent bad bob to his maker and went back to raising chaps and hogs..
as far as im concerned he was the best pistol man ever..the advantage of having that wierd music start playing just before he put another would be bad guy dn,would makum break into a cold sweat..
there was one fella in a black hat that outsmarted him once tho.. then had second thoughts about killing ole clint and went into the hog raising buisiness with him an sara instead..they say ed took his size an such after his mom..boys ole clint was something .. like to peas in a pod we was..
MikeG
05-27-2008, 01:23 PM
McGivern's book is interesting, although among the dryest writing to ever be put on a page. If I didn't have an interest in the material at hand, wouldn't have lasted two pages....
Neat ....
McGivern's book is interesting, although among the dryest writing to ever be put on a page. If I didn't have an interest in the material at hand, wouldn't have lasted two pages....
Neat ....
Thank heavens, and all this time I thought it was just me!!
Dan
bfrshooter
05-27-2008, 06:33 PM
I have shot most of my revolvers out to 500 meters (547 yd's) from Creedmore position quite often. It is amazing how you can clang steel that far.
My problem is eyesight now so I use my red dots. Those things cover a lot of area out that far. I don't adjust them because there is just not enough anyway, I just aim at a tree branch way above the targets.
At 500 yd's my 45-70 BFR drops 26 FEET! :D Even more at 500 meters. I haven't figure the .475 that far yet but have shot it at 400 yd's. With more luck then anything, I kept 4 out of 5 on a small swinger that far. I had to rest the red dot on top of the 500 meter berm above the target. The rifle guys let me shoot it and could not believe I was hitting it. Even my friend Pete got a few hits. By the way, I was shooting my WLN boolit.
Whitworth is going with me next time. Gas prices are killing me right now.
I also have a half size steel buffalo at a friends field set at 500 yd's but the weeds are too high.
All I can say is to go try it if you can find a place to shoot. It is a **** of a lot of fun.
Now you know why I HATE 25 yd's! :cool:
i've been to a lot of ihmsa shoots and watched guys shoot steel rams at 200 yards.... i think most of them would do good out to 300 yards too! these were all all styles of handguns and the rules are you must open sights and not shoot from a rest so creedmore position was the way they shot... like ive said before it's amazing to see a bullet fall into a steel animal at 200 yards.... looks like it comes in from about 12 feet up!
MikeG
05-27-2008, 07:13 PM
A .357 at 1,000 yards would be like lobbing mortar rounds! :D
I think you'd be surprised. With bullets of comparable sectional density, it should have pretty much the same trajectory as the .41 mag, .44 mag, et al.
faucettb
05-27-2008, 08:55 PM
This was my last long range plinker/hunting revolver. Here in Idaho we couldn't use the red dot sight for hunting big game til last year. Like BFR my eyes are going places that a bullet can't anymore so the red dot. I'm still accurate enough that I wouldn't hesitate to take a deer out to 50 yards with the 41 mag I now carry, but my days of a hundred yard revolver shot with open sights are gone.
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Whitworth
05-27-2008, 09:07 PM
That's a nice rig, Bob!
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