kaytod
06-06-2008, 04:25 PM
Here is a copy of the Penetration results of Greg Sappington's 880 grain 12 gauge and 1043 grain "Bear Buster" slugs.
Enjoy
Todd
Friends and Fellow shooters,
Here are the results from the Linebaugh seminar here in the midwest.
Greg was kind enough to send be three loadings with two different slugs.
The test gun was a stock Savage 210 bolt action fully rifled slug gun. (24 inch barrel) This gun with scope tips the scales at 8.2 pounds.
The loads were as follows;
880 grain slug at 1048 fps
880 grain slug at 1441 fps
1043 grain slug at 1080 fps
For those of you unfamilar with how testing is done at the midwest seminar, check out the post on Dixie Slugs Forum.
In short we do two tests, One test in water soaked newspaper, and the second test is water soaked newspaper with a full size beef femur placed approx 4" into the stack. Distances are fired are around 15 feet, as we want to insure we capture the bullets and be able to get a clear wound channel.
Many people who saw the size of the slugs wouldn't volunteer to help shoot them. In reality the recoil of the 1000 fps loads wern't unmanagable. The 1441's were not someting the the average shooter would want to attempt, especially in a Remington 870 with plastic stocks.
Here is the copy of what I sent to Greg regarding the results.
Greg,
Yes Sir, I did get to test them AND video them too. The vidoe camera is a new Digital model my good friend Joe V. brought. He is all things camera oriented. He's getting the video placed on DVD so we can copy and send out.
The three loads you sent were tested in a stock Savage 210 fully rifled slug gun, which weighs 8.2 lbs.
880 grain bullets were cronographed at 1048 ave for the 29gns longshot. and 1441fps average for the 62.8 grains of 4759.
The 1043 grain bullets were cronographed at 1080 fps average.
Recoil from either of the 1000 fps loads weren't bad, just a good big push. The 1400+ load was a bit more exuberant. I had corongraphed a buch of heavy rifle, 450/400 rifle 416 Rigby and 458 Win. as well as the slugs wearing just a light shirt. My wife notice that I was bleeding, come find out it was my shoulder. During the duration of my shooting session, the recoil split the skin open over my collar bone and I was oozing a bit. Still too much fun to stop though.
The 880 grainers at 1048 penetrated 36" average in plain paper and went 4"paper+bone+ 18" average with the bone emplaced. Our bones were the beef femurs and were better than the size of a fist. The bullets recovered in paper were undamaged and the ones thru bone lost a nose portion if the first driving band and at times sheared to the second driving band. Those that were to the second band weighed 550 grains on average and those that were less damaged I couldnt weigh on a 750 grain scale.
The 880's at 1441 fps penetrated 45" thru paper and 4paper+bone+26" additional paper. Bullets recovered in plain paper were undamaged and thou bone lost the nose portion to the middle driving band, weight was 540 grains average.
The 1043 grainers went thre 48" paper on average and 4"paper+bone+ an additional 36 inches of paper. Plain paper bullets were undamaged and the ones thru bone showed only peened nose portions back to the start of the truncacted cone. I took them to a friend that had a 1000 grain scale and he couldn't weigh them on it. They survived well.
These are very specialized slugs, for those shooters who can apply them they will be devistating. Recoil will the deciding factor.
Thank you for letting me shoot these and test them. This has been a wonderful experience. I thank you.
Todd CorderI did have one brave soul want to shoot one of the 880's at 1441. I warned him not to let the gun get on him, and as I was about to finish with "and don't get up on that scope" his shot preceed my final sentence. He recieved a nice scope cut on the bridge of his nose. The bleeding stopped in 15 minutes or so, about the same time the black eye was starting to appear.
We did another batch of testing the next day and in order to give my shoulder a rest, My good friend Clay came with his PAST shoulder pad and shot more data so that I could video the shots.
I'm still waiting for the master DVD so that I can post it on the web or mail out copies. I'll do that as soon as I get the master.
Thanks to all, and especially Greg,
Todd Corder
Enjoy
Todd
Friends and Fellow shooters,
Here are the results from the Linebaugh seminar here in the midwest.
Greg was kind enough to send be three loadings with two different slugs.
The test gun was a stock Savage 210 bolt action fully rifled slug gun. (24 inch barrel) This gun with scope tips the scales at 8.2 pounds.
The loads were as follows;
880 grain slug at 1048 fps
880 grain slug at 1441 fps
1043 grain slug at 1080 fps
For those of you unfamilar with how testing is done at the midwest seminar, check out the post on Dixie Slugs Forum.
In short we do two tests, One test in water soaked newspaper, and the second test is water soaked newspaper with a full size beef femur placed approx 4" into the stack. Distances are fired are around 15 feet, as we want to insure we capture the bullets and be able to get a clear wound channel.
Many people who saw the size of the slugs wouldn't volunteer to help shoot them. In reality the recoil of the 1000 fps loads wern't unmanagable. The 1441's were not someting the the average shooter would want to attempt, especially in a Remington 870 with plastic stocks.
Here is the copy of what I sent to Greg regarding the results.
Greg,
Yes Sir, I did get to test them AND video them too. The vidoe camera is a new Digital model my good friend Joe V. brought. He is all things camera oriented. He's getting the video placed on DVD so we can copy and send out.
The three loads you sent were tested in a stock Savage 210 fully rifled slug gun, which weighs 8.2 lbs.
880 grain bullets were cronographed at 1048 ave for the 29gns longshot. and 1441fps average for the 62.8 grains of 4759.
The 1043 grain bullets were cronographed at 1080 fps average.
Recoil from either of the 1000 fps loads weren't bad, just a good big push. The 1400+ load was a bit more exuberant. I had corongraphed a buch of heavy rifle, 450/400 rifle 416 Rigby and 458 Win. as well as the slugs wearing just a light shirt. My wife notice that I was bleeding, come find out it was my shoulder. During the duration of my shooting session, the recoil split the skin open over my collar bone and I was oozing a bit. Still too much fun to stop though.
The 880 grainers at 1048 penetrated 36" average in plain paper and went 4"paper+bone+ 18" average with the bone emplaced. Our bones were the beef femurs and were better than the size of a fist. The bullets recovered in paper were undamaged and the ones thru bone lost a nose portion if the first driving band and at times sheared to the second driving band. Those that were to the second band weighed 550 grains on average and those that were less damaged I couldnt weigh on a 750 grain scale.
The 880's at 1441 fps penetrated 45" thru paper and 4paper+bone+26" additional paper. Bullets recovered in plain paper were undamaged and thou bone lost the nose portion to the middle driving band, weight was 540 grains average.
The 1043 grainers went thre 48" paper on average and 4"paper+bone+ an additional 36 inches of paper. Plain paper bullets were undamaged and the ones thru bone showed only peened nose portions back to the start of the truncacted cone. I took them to a friend that had a 1000 grain scale and he couldn't weigh them on it. They survived well.
These are very specialized slugs, for those shooters who can apply them they will be devistating. Recoil will the deciding factor.
Thank you for letting me shoot these and test them. This has been a wonderful experience. I thank you.
Todd CorderI did have one brave soul want to shoot one of the 880's at 1441. I warned him not to let the gun get on him, and as I was about to finish with "and don't get up on that scope" his shot preceed my final sentence. He recieved a nice scope cut on the bridge of his nose. The bleeding stopped in 15 minutes or so, about the same time the black eye was starting to appear.
We did another batch of testing the next day and in order to give my shoulder a rest, My good friend Clay came with his PAST shoulder pad and shot more data so that I could video the shots.
I'm still waiting for the master DVD so that I can post it on the web or mail out copies. I'll do that as soon as I get the master.
Thanks to all, and especially Greg,
Todd Corder