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that sounds like one more big deer..

The other guy wasn't a hunter, he was a Jackass. One round where it needed to be would have ended a lot of suffering.

There are a lot of things you can do to still have a fine trophy to display. A "European" "skull" mount, horns on a plaque, or suck it up and get another cape from the taxidermist. All of which are much better than letting a deer suffer like that. Sure reveals what that person was made of, which isn't much.

Yes, I agree completely, if I don't I will get closed!

Keep in mind guys that even a good shot can have a bad day, especially new guys. I was goose hunting down on the Snake River once and had a new guy in the blind. He made a dandy shot at about 60 yards out. Everyone did the congrats thing and commented how he didn't get buck fever on his first goose hunt. When were done he said "well I better go get it" and stepped out of the blind into 8 feet of water. I laughed so hard I durn near spit up breakfast.

I've seen my share of goofs and misses over the years and also my share of 1894's Jackasses in the woods too. I've also seen hunting camps consisting of a bunch of drunks seeing how much beer they can drink and still get up in the morning to go hunting. What a shame.

Kudo's to you Twelve for finishing off the buck. I carry a little four inch 22 revolver and it's finished off a bunch of mis shot deer that folks have wounded. Like you I simply can't believe how poorly some folks that call themselves hunters shoot. Were back to that sight in I've watched a few times at our local gravel pit range. Fold up your jacket over the hood of your pickup. Shoot at the big white rock on the hillside at an undetermined distance. Take another sip of your beer and say "yup, she's ready for elk season".

The really scary thing is the number of folks shot by these idiots during hunting season. I was sitting near a deer trail one year waiting for a nice buck to come along and help me fill my tag.

Pretty soon here comes a guy down the trail. He was sneaking along with his AR-10 at port arms and ready. He was dressed head to toe in camo and his eyes were almost bugged out in concentration looking for a deer. I was in plain sight with a blaze orange hat and he walked by me at 10 feet and never saw me. I noticed he had a Rambo style knife on when he went by.

I was simply to scared to say anything or move cause I knew he was cocked and locked and probably would have shot me thinking that anything that moved or made a noise was a deer.

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Thanks for the post

Geez, I wish you would just tell me how you feel!
Just kidding,thx for the post.
Yes, there is no excuse for suffering, that is why I went to extremes.

I do however commend your actions to end the suffering.

Capes are not easily repaired and if damaged from an expanding bullet generally show the damage when mounted. The bullet holes are visible in the mount of a muley that I shot last year with a single neck shot from a muzzle-loader. A severely damaged cape needs to be replaced. Slitting the throat causes severe cape damage is no more quick to kill the animal than a shot through the chest since in both cases the animal dies from loss of blood, and the suffering will be similar. A shot through the chest on a crippled animal will kill it as quickly as a shot through the chest will kill a non-wounded animal.

I suspect the animal described died of blood loss from the crippling shots rather from twelveknuckles choking it since I don't believe twelveknuckles, no matter how big a man he is, can choke a large muley buck to death.

Last week I and the individual, with whom I most often hunt, stopped at a Bass Pro store on the way home from shooting. There was a skull mount of a large moose there. He remarked that he would not have such a mount in his house since it looked like the hunter was too cheap to have a regular mount.

While elk hunting several years back, my buddy and I were crossing a large mountain meadow headed for some dark timber. As we crossed the meadow I saw another hunter in orange along the west edge of the meadow some 300 yards or so away. I looked at him through my binoculars and saw him looking at us through his rifle scope. Now that is an uneasy feeling having someone point a rifle at you as you walk by. Needless to say we hurried across the clearing before that Jack*** accidently touched his trigger.

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Good call, Irv; I would not have been able to catch the deer either if it was not wounded; .
Was not trying to be "big"; I was trying to keep the animal, who was trying hard to get up- from suffering any more-he was definately hurt, or I would not have been able to finish him off, I felt enough life in him that he nearly threw me off the hill, but we'll go with what you suspect.

As far as the mount is concerned, the cost of a proper english mount can be pretty high if done with beetles and quality angles and wood, it's a matter of taste-I would rather not have dusty hair over my living quarters.

The point of this thread is sportsmanship and quick kill; capes being considered after the animal is beyond suffering.
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My point is that a crippled animal can be quickly and humanely killed without damaging the cape.

My reference to "big" was to your self described physical stature in other posts (much larger and stronger than the "average" hunter) and that I don't think it is possible for a human to choke a large muley buck to death without a weapon, not that I thought you were being "macho". The deer I described resulting in the mount with visible bullet holes, was not as large (at least in antler size) as the one you described, but the boned out meat I backpacked out weighed over 90 pounds, suggesting that it's live weight was pushing 300 pounds.

Preference for preserving trophies varies. I convinced 2 new hunters to have a "European" mount done on their first big game kills (a deer and an elk), which were slightly below average, rather than spend about 3 times as much for a shoulder mount. Personally, I prefer antlers on a panel (which is even less expensive) over a European mount with the skull.

Glad we got to it.

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I was hunting with my brother in law when we came across a white tail that was paralized but alert from a poorly placed arrow. The poor thing had most of its hind quarters eaten by red fox. The brother in law started smashing its head with a rock because he was too cheap to 'waste' a 12 gauge shell on it. I pushed him out of the way, shot it and cuss him to this day because of it.

Kudu40

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Larger/Stronger? than average?, never said that.

Much larger, if you measure around the waist.
Much stronger, if you consider the armpits.

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Somewhere I got the impression that you are 6 1/2' tall and weigh a muscular 300 lbs. I apparently mis-attributed someone else's post - sorry.

Its been many years since I've needed a "finishing shot", but when not planning to mount an animal, I use a shot behind the ear. Faucettb stated he uses a .22 revolver. In Colorado, it is illegal to use a handgun to kill a crippled animal unless it is legal for for hunting the animal - .24 caliber or larger with a 4" or longer barrel with 550 ft-lbs energy at 50 yards for big game.

Thanks for the post!

kudu, you probably changed his behavior by letting him know how you felt about it.
This is the point, and I am glad you posted this!
We do not know how bad it can get; and I do not want to find out.
I would rather impart some sense, just as you did.

Its been many years since I've needed a "finishing shot", but when not planning to mount an animal, I use a shot behind the ear. Faucettb stated he uses a .22 revolver. In Colorado, it is illegal to use a handgun to kill a crippled animal unless it is legal for for hunting the animal - .24 caliber or larger with a 4" or longer barrel with 550 ft-lbs energy at 50 yards for big game.
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I can at least understand the logic even if I do not agree. What if you took a hunting
knife and either slit the throat or plunged deep into the heart. I doubt there
is a hunting season for use of knives as weapons....... For that matter, when
does a knife become a sword ?