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HOGGHEAD
04-18-2009, 12:20 PM
Just looking for suggestons on a bullet mold for a new Miroku Low Wall in 45 Colt. I am new to the 45 Colt, and I am just looking for general suggestions from anyone. I ordered a 45 Colt specific reloading booklet, but I have not received it yet. Any comments welcome. Tom.
jmortimer
04-18-2009, 01:04 PM
I would consider molds from Lead Bullet Technology or the molds from Lee Precision.
unclenick
04-18-2009, 02:03 PM
What are you hoping to get the bullet to do? Lots of 250 grain RFN's out there. If you plan to load it up to magnum velocities or you want to hunt with it, you'll want something with a flatter nose to help the effect. The 300 grain bullet in my avatar would probably work, but only two molds exist in the world for it. If you want to try a few, PM me your address and I will send them along. If it turns out you are desperately in love with them, I might part with one of the molds—a 6-cavity Lee—but no obligation is implied at all. I'm simply not using them both.
arkypete
04-19-2009, 06:28 AM
I fire 45 Colt in S&Ws and a Winchester 92.
The revolvers get 9.5 grains fo Unique, 250 grain Saeco SWC sized .454, LBT Blue. The Winchester gets. 20 grains of H110, 300 grain Saeco SWC, Sized .454, LBT Blue.
Jim
I have been using the 300 gr. lee in a 92 with good results, also have been experimenting with it paper patched in the 45-70.
MMichaelAK
05-28-2009, 10:44 PM
I like the 300 grain Lee in both my Ruger revolvers and my Puma 92 carbine. Also the Laser Cast 250 grain RNFP.
John Kort
05-30-2009, 08:04 AM
HOGHEAD,
Good suggestions by our fellow cast bullet enthusiasts. If you are looking for a 250 gr. bullet to shoot longer range, I would recommend the RCBS 250 which is a copy of the original .45 Colt bullet except that it has a pronounced front driving band. It is the most accurate bullet I have tried in my Marlin Cowboy rifle.
It is the bullet pictured the 2nd from the left. The left bullet is the original .45 Colt bullet.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/w30wcf/45Coltbullets2jpg-1.jpg
Here's what this bullet will do at 330 meters:)
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/w30wcf/Javelina45Coltbp-1.jpg
John
Tom W.
05-30-2009, 06:48 PM
THe RCBS 270 SAA bullet is a good one, too, as well as the Lee 300 grain bullet.
TAWILDCATT
06-01-2009, 01:20 PM
I use the lee 252 gr SWC with 9.5 gr unique in my ruger and win trapper.
HOGGHEAD
06-19-2009, 08:14 PM
HOGHEAD,
Good suggestions by our fellow cast bullet enthusiasts. If you are looking for a 250 gr. bullet to shoot longer range, I would recommend the RCBS 250 which is a copy of the original .45 Colt bullet except that it has a pronounced front driving band. It is the most accurate bullet I have tried in my Marlin Cowboy rifle.
It is the bullet pictured the 2nd from the left. The left bullet is the original .45 Colt bullet.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/w30wcf/45Coltbullets2jpg-1.jpg
Here's what this bullet will do at 330 meters:)
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/w30wcf/Javelina45Coltbp-1.jpg
John
I have that RCBS mold. And I cast some bullets with the mold. I sized and lubed them the same way you did. However someone said that it is better not to lube the upper groove, and to use the upper groove as the crimping groove so that the bullet could be set out farther?? How deep do you seat that bullet?? Where do you crimp at?? Thanks, Tom.
John Kort
06-20-2009, 05:05 AM
Tom,
Since you are using a single shot, I would suggest not crimping the bullet unless you were using slower burning pistol powders like H110, 2400, 4227, etc.
The RCBS bullet was designed after the original 454190 which means crimping over the front band with both lube grooves filled when using b.p.
With smokeless, I still fill both grooves and seat it out to within .03" of the lands for best accuracy when using standard .45 Colt loads....8/231 or 8.5 of either Unique or Universal.
I do recall running a test with just the back lube groove filled and as I recall, it seemed to work all right.
I use w.w.+2% tin alloy exclusively for this bullet.
PLease let us know how this bullet works in your rifle.
John
purpledragon
06-20-2009, 01:03 PM
Good call John Kort that is probably the best long range .45colt lead bullet.......just my two cents worth
HOGGHEAD
06-20-2009, 03:15 PM
John this 45 Colt is strictly a fun rifle for me. I wanted one in 44 magnum, but could not find one so I had to settle for a 45 Colt. I am happy I got the Colt, however I am just starting on the learning curve for loading the 45 Colt cartridge.
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o223/HEAD0001/HOOKS/IMG_0581.jpg
I started with 250 grain XTP's because I did not have a mold. At first I tried not crimping. However the powders I tried were all very dirty burning without a heavy crimp. I tried 2400, 4227, and Red Dot. I did not like the Red Dot---I prefer a better case fill for safety reasons.
I did a lot of reading about the 45 Colt. And I determined the first mold I wanted to try was the RCBS 255 grain "Keith Style" bullet. I received a lot of good information on the Leverguns site. When I posted a picture of the bullet I casted a fellow(who I trust) said that he does not lube the upper smaller lube groove. Instead he uses that groove to crimp his bullet.
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o223/HEAD0001/HOOKS/IMG_0598.jpg
I did not want to crimp the bullet. I wanted to seat the bullet out to the lands, however the powders were burning very very dirty, and when I put the heavy profile crimp(redding die) on the cartridge, then the powder completely burned, and the barrel was drastically cleaner.
As I said I am still learning about this 45 Colt. I need to trim some cases this afternoon or tomorrow. Then I can load the bullets I casted already. I am also going to go out and cast a few more and only lube the bottom groove, and crimp in the upper groove to see how they perform.
This is strictly a "fun gun" for me. It is a "hoot to shoot" and it is an inexpensive rifle so I will be putting a lot of lead down the barrel. I am going to have to stay with the 2400. I have 10# on the shelf. Thanks for the help. Tom.
unclenick
06-20-2009, 07:27 PM
I don't have that mold, but I am pretty sure that if you look closely you will find that upper groove is intended to be a crimp groove and not a lube groove, anyway. The lube groove usually has a rounded or a square bottom profile, while crimp grooves often are a ramp shape with the most acute angle at the front. More than one size lube groove in a mold design would not be typical.
I have that earlier mentioned RCBS 250 grain FRN mold. I got it back in the 80's. I don't currently have a .45 LC, but still have a number of those bullets cast back then and was thinking of paper patching them in the .45-70 to see what I could get them to do that way? Have you or anyone you know tried that with them?
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