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41fan
03-03-2001, 11:29 PM
I think H4895 is the best all-around rifle powder. I mean you can use it in just about every rifle round out their. Of course it won't be top velocity in but a few, but if I could only have one jug of powder, it would be 4895.  doug

Clark
04-17-2001, 02:25 PM
For pistols: 32acp, 32 sw, 7.62x25, 380, 9x19, 9x23, 357 Sig, 38 spec, 357 mag, 38 sw, 40 sw, 10mm, 44mag, and 45acp I use:
Bullseye
Unique
Power Pistol
HS-6
Blue Dot
2400"
3N37
800-X
AA#5
AA#7
AA#9
H110
LIL'GUN
Long Shot

For rifles: .223, 6.5x55, .303 Sav, .308, 30-06, 303 Brit, 7.62x54, 8mm, and 45/70
I use:
IMR4895

ssgt
04-17-2001, 07:27 PM
An opinion??This I can do!.....Ive pretty much gone to BLC2 in most of my rifles. Of course, Varget does really good work.....Plus there is 2400 that I ...oops....!!

LoneEagle
04-18-2001, 04:21 AM
I might if forced say something about IMR-4198.
.45/70 Gov't
.223 Rem
.358 Win
.30-06 Spr. cast bullets.
Sean

James Gates
04-18-2001, 06:51 AM
Excellent post and good information!...After reading this post, I started thinking back over the years as to what kind of powder I always keep plenty of....Since I use jacketed bullets most in my rifles, I have always keep a few sealed cans of IMR4064. You can't get the max velocity out of it, but I've never found a more accurate rifle powder across the board. My old Camp Perry .30-06 Spring. load for many years was 49/50 grs IMR 4064 with a 180 gr Sierra BT.
As for pistol powders, for both cast and jacketed bullets...old tried and true Unique will get you by! No it will not go up to 296/H110/2400, but will serve all across the board. It also works great for mild rifle cast bullets. Yes, I have a cabinet full of others, but you can bet there will always be some IMR 4064 and Unique.
Best Regards, James

Marshall Stanton
04-18-2001, 12:05 PM
Hmmmmm..... if limited to two or three powders.... for EVERYTHING!<!--emo&???--><img src="http://beartoothbullets.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo-->?

Although these wouldn't be my top pick for the majority of the loads I use, if forced to narrow down my inventory to just three powders, these would have to be it!

Alliant Unique

Alliant 2400

IMR 3031

These will cover most centerfire rifle cartridges with a reasonable degree of efficiency, virtually all handgun cartridges, most to near perfection and many shotgun shell needs as well.

Sorry, it's not exotic or imaginative, but darned sure versatile!

FWIW.

God Bless,

Marshall

Longrifle7
03-30-2002, 07:25 PM
I use H4831 for:
243 Winchester
308 Winchester
7MM Magnum
30/06

I used to use IMR 4320 and IMR 4350 both were good powders and shot some amazing groups with these powders.

Kragman71
03-31-2002, 05:58 PM
Looking back,I've bought a LOT more IMR#3031 and IMR#4198 then any other rifle powders.
But I don't have any Kaboomers,and I don't even shoot the 30'06 much,anymore.
My serious loads in the 30/30 and the 30/40,use the #3031 and my 45/70 uses the 4198.
Frank

MikeG
04-01-2002, 07:19 AM
Varget... burn rate close to 3031, yet gives speeds close to 4350 (due to being double-based).

Meters good, temperature insensitive, have used with good results in .22-250, .257 Rob, .30-06, and .338 Win Mag.

I'd pick 4064 but it's such a pain to meter...

BigBob3006
04-01-2002, 07:49 AM
41FAN,
&nbsp; I think the spectrum is too broad for one powder to do it all. I've cut my powder back to just two. Hodgdon Varget, which has a burn rate close to that of IMR-4064. The other powder is Hodgdon-4350. I load for quite a few cartridges and these two seem to do the trick. Good luck

FA18CUB
04-01-2002, 08:53 AM
What are the characteristics of a powder that make a person"not like to load with it" ? I am not asking which powder is better for a given chartridge. What are the things that you have found you like or don't like about working with certain powders?

MikeG
04-01-2002, 11:00 AM
Basically, I've only found a couple of things that will disqualify a powder for use (my opinions):

#1 is if it's hard to meter, ie the long stick powders like IMR, and older (non short-cut) Hodgdon. &nbsp;They work, but.... are a pain. &nbsp;Once in a while I will use them, if only loading a few rounds (like for my Swede which doesn't get shot much).

#2 is if it is 'hard to ignite' and I am trying to run less than full throttle. &nbsp;Example.... 44 mag works great with 296/H110, but only at top-end loads. &nbsp;It's not suitable for mid-range loads. &nbsp;So in that case I go with something else.

#3 can't get enough in the case (too slow). &nbsp;Don't use 4831 in the .22 Hornet, obviously.

#4 I guess some people might have a problem if a powder burns 'dirty' and leaves a lot of crud in the &nbsp;barrel. &nbsp;I view this as an extension of #2, and rarely encounter this problem.

#5 Too fast ... can't get the necessary (or desired) velocity for the application, within safe pressure limits. &nbsp;Example - AA#2 is not a good powder for top-end .44 mag loads with heavy bullets, but works fine for light and mid-range loads.

Personally I'd rather spend my time tinkering with bullet diameter, seating depth & crimp than trying many powders and primers. &nbsp;That is what works for me, I have been able to get good accuracy in a number of guns just picking a powder/primer and perhaps trying some different bullets, and checking my ammo to see that it is being loaded precisely (ie bullet runout/concentricity).

Paul Nichols
04-02-2002, 09:56 AM
If I had to stick with only one, would have to go with IMR 4895, but would seriously miss having #2 which would be 2400 because I shoot a lot of cast in many different rifle ctgs, and load for 357 and 44 as well. &nbsp;Good thread-interesting replies.

Paul in Omaha

BigBob3006
04-25-2002, 01:53 PM
PAUL,
&nbsp; I don't think there is such an animal. There are several powders with which you can get a wide variety of bullets to go down range with, but that's a long way from being " the best". The '06 is a good example of this. With the broad range of bullet weights available, three different burn rates can be useful. Besides, this is one of the main points of fun about loading. Just one old goats opinion, Good luck. <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://beartoothbullets.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://beartoothbullets.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://beartoothbullets.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->

Muleskinner
05-02-2002, 09:54 AM
MikeG,
Interesting approach. &nbsp;I use just the opposite. &nbsp;I start with a specific bullet, then try to find a suitable powder. &nbsp;I can't say I have a favorite, there are things I like about many. &nbsp;My least favorite are the WW ball powders. &nbsp;They work well for small cases, but 760 in a 30-06 case for example, does take up enough room. &nbsp;I'm also a fan of IMR4064, but IMR4350 only works well in one of my rifles (8x57). &nbsp;H4831 is a good powder for my 270 and 30-06, but my M71 seems to prefer other powders. &nbsp;So I guess my answer is that I reload to give me precisely the control through variety that you want me to discount. &nbsp;If all my rifles shot their absolute best with one powder, I'd limit myself. &nbsp;But can that ever be possible?

MikeG
05-02-2002, 09:21 PM
Mule,

Actually, I also start with a specific bullet also. &nbsp;It's just that I've always been able to get the accuracy that I want by fiddling with things other than the powder / primer type. &nbsp;Mostly seating depth, neck tension, crimp, and so on.

I'd switch powders if I have to, but so far haven't found this to make a big difference. &nbsp;So my first choice is what's available in the big jug on the shelf (correct burn rate and load data of course), and go from there.

No, I don't think that one powder can do it all. &nbsp;But I don't want to have 20 different cans sitting around either.

Muleskinner
05-03-2002, 07:30 AM
I ran accross some powder sold in 1/2 lb containers. &nbsp;Can't remember the brand. &nbsp;Great idea for workin' up loads. &nbsp;Maybe even a few ounces would be nice. &nbsp;I learned along time ago that anything more than 10 rounds with a new charge was a waste. &nbsp;I hate pullin' bullets.

bulletsbob
05-05-2002, 07:20 AM
4895 for match loads but Reloader 15 for high velocity. Only load &nbsp;.308 Win. these days.

elbStJoeMO
05-30-2002, 07:30 PM
I load for 7 different rifle calbers and I use 4895 for 90% of my loads. I just start working up a load with it and I can usually find the right combination. The other 12 cans of powder are there because they were on sale and I couldn't pass them up for the price. The only pistol caliber I load is .38 Special for my K frames and the can of Bullseye I bought 5 or 6 years ago is still about a quarter full.

Starrbow
05-31-2002, 05:49 AM
I would have to go with 3F BLACKPOWDER it would work in my Flintlocks, Shotguns, Pistols and most of my Rifles. *It's dirty but it's sure.Smokless would be 2400 or unique............Marko

DMC
06-03-2002, 03:44 PM
AA's 2520. Doesn't really shine except in the 8mm Mauser and 8mm-06, but works pretty good in everything from the .30-30 to the .35's.
Pistol powder has to be HS6. Same reasoning.
Shotgun - Green Dot.
DC

Paul Nichols
06-04-2002, 05:12 AM
If only one, it would be 2400, I shoot cast a lot.
If two, would add 4895
And----if 3 could not pass up Ball-C

Handloader
06-05-2002, 01:08 PM
I guess that if I could only have one powder it would be IMR 4895. But I really prefer Reloder 22