Seriously considering the Rem. Mdl 710 in 270. Is there a forum for centerfire or remington like there is for Marlin? Where to get more infomation/reviews?

We don't discriminate... LOL.... rifles are rifles.... just ask and see who responds. Don't think we have much in the way of gun reviews here, other than people just posting their thoughts/observations.

MarkA,

Just wondering why you would be considering this model over the 700? Maybe you've got good reasons for wanting one. When I read about the receivers containing fiberglass (or was it plastic?) I lost interest. That's not to say that they aren't the cat's meow...have no way of knowing. I must be getting fixed in my ways in my advance state of aging, but except for the occasional plastic trigger guard or such I don't much hold with plastic in my guns.

I bought a 700 ADL in 270 Win at Walmart years ago. It is THE most accurate big game rifle I own, or have ever owned. It shoots little tiny groups with almost everything you feed it.

Nothing at all wrong with Remington rifles, despite what a lot of folks say (except for ISS). I'm just not sure about the 710 yet. But don't just take my word for it. Maybe someone else will pipe up here.

Good luck!

Seriously considering the Rem. Mdl 710 in 270. Is there a forum for centerfire or remington like there is for Marlin? Where to get more infomation/reviews?

Hi Mark,
The Rem 710 was built to be an Entry level rifle targeted at the casual hunter who shot a few rounds a year. As such it also carried an Entry Level price.

I have a friend who also bought the same 270 rifle that your considering and I have shot it. The rifle carries more plastic than most other rifles and the barrel/bolt relationship makes a rebarrelling job highly unlikely anywhere outside the factory. However the rifle shot well and grouped in the 1.25 range at 100yrds.

I would say that the rifle will do exactly what it was intended to do and thats to kill a deer every year for the infrequent hunter.

What its not. Its not a rifle that will last 50 years and be handed down for generations upon generations.

Ray

Will it work, yes, will it shoot fairly accurately, yes, will it kill a deer, yes, is it cheap, yes. That said though, the one I handled left me extremely cold. Maybe I am an old goob, but I like my bolts to work smoothly, not stiff as a cobb. Everything about the rifle felt cheap. IMO I think one will be much happier if they save their pennies for a while longer and get a 700. If you absolutey must have the 710, it will serve you well enough but you are going to be stuck with it. No mods are easily accomplished should you wish to do so later on and resale IMO is going to be in the toilet. One thing the 710 is never going to be is a foundation for which to build something on. While Remington's other attempt at a entry level rifle, the 788, failed, at least the 788 was pretty decent and every one of those rifles that I have seen shot like gangbusters. They looked like a plain Jane, but they shot great. In all honesty, I think I would rather have a used 788 if you can find one than the new 710. Funny how the 788, which was the cheapest thing out there (under $200), now sell for $400 up for a decent one. You might look into a used Rem 721 also. There are a couple of fairly nice ones on GunsAmerica for about $350.

Y'all are right on! I got distracted by the $'s. I had started out looking for a CZ 527 chambered in 7.62 X 39 after reading some articles on it. That's gonna be alot more expensive but may be worth the wait to afford it.

The .270 you first posted about can be loaded so as to be a giant killer! The 7.62 x 39 you later posted about is crap! Nobody in their right mind will stand in front of the 7.62, but all in all it's not a very sporting/utilitarian cartridge.

The .270 in a Remington Model 700, properly loaded by factory or do-it-yourselfers will take deer cleanly at over 375 yds' while the 'commie' round is barely fit for such service beyond 100. The .270 has killed Large lions, brown bear, elk, moose, etc.etc.etc. The 'commie' round is good for fmj's in a short-range battle ground.

I recommend you buy a Model 700, ADL synthetic if you want to save money, put on good bases, Millet Angle-Loc rings and a decent scope --- in .270 or .308 caliber. You'll love the accuracy.....

Take care.

The 7.62X39 is NOT much of a sporting cartridge. It will work in some applications but isn't really ideal for anything. The only advantage I can think of is cheap ammo, but the cheap stuff is full-metal-case military type stuff that isn't useful for hunting and is rarely accurate.

I'd be looking at some of the other options, myself.

If your shots are under 200 yards and you handload, the 7.62x39 will serve your interest from black bear through deer. The first two qualifiers are ALL IMPORTANT in this matter. You will need to handload to get the performance from the 7.62x39 to make it a reliable killer of medium to large game out to 200 yards. For most general hunting, the .270, 30-06, .308 are superior in all aspects that would concern a hunter.

I would pass on the Remington M710, I've shot one, and my impression was that it was a POS. Yes, it shot fairly well, but it was no 788 by any strectch in the accuracy department. The trigger on the example I fired was very poor, I don't know if it adjustable like the M700 or M70. The rifle feels like it should have a orange muzzle plug that is mandated on toy guns. I would certainly rather have a M700 ADL or Winchester M70 Super Shadow than the 710, the cost difference equals little more than a box or two of ammo.

The two rifles you are comparing, can't be compared. The mini-Mauser in 7.62x39 is not in the same category as a "plastic rifle", just the same as a Glock will never be a 1911. Never, not ever.

We've had this discussion before - the merits of the 7.62x39 cartridge. All were of the opinion it fell somewhere between the .308 Win and the 30-06 Spfld as far as power. This would indicate it should be able to do an adequate job on deer sized critters at reasonable ranges. Get rid of that 123 gr bullet and load it with a decent 150 grainer and it will probably be OK.

The only ammo I've shot has been the bulk el cheapo stuff out of an SKS. Wasn't too impressed with the accuracy and got rid of both ammo and rifle. Matter of fact, I've had 3 SKS's and dumped all of them for 'way more than they cost.

I'll ditto the comments on the economical Remington 710 - handled one and thought like kicH that it wasn't much in the way of a firearm.

Ballistically, the 7.62X39 falls way below the 308. It is much closer to the 30-30, getting only 2500fps or thereabouts with a 123-125gr bullet. The 308 will easily get 2800+ with a 150gr, making it much more cartridge.

kdub, the best thing I've heard about the SKS is that you sold 'em for more than you paid for 'em!

IDhooter,
the 7.63x39 is a considerable upgrade over the 30-30 when fired in a bolt rifle, but a .308 it's not. I own a SKS carbine, or paratrooper model as it's referred to, but I'd never use it for hunting anything I really wanted to kill. My reason for this is the hideous trigger and the fact that my nose hits my thumb when I fire it without adding length to the stock. I guess I'll never get used to the "european" firing technique that is need with such esteemed weapons as everything that HK makes. I believe AK's and SKS's are made for small men, women, and children. To get the potential out of the 7.62 Russian, you need to use heavier bullets. In a relativley stout bolt action like the mini-Mauser, it's reasonable to expect around 2500 fps with a 150gr bullet. Still a good 300 fps behind a .308, but good enough for medium to big game out to 200 yards with proper bullet weight/construction.

That said, I don't begin to compare it with a 308. When loaded properly, it's more like a .300 Savage loaded for a Model 8 Remington.

MarK:

While the CZ 527 is a good rifle, why pay that much? The Weatherby Vanguard is available now for $479.00. Made by Howa of Japan it is well manufactured, comes with a synthetic stock for wet weather hunting, and is available in standard cailbers and the .300 Weatherby. This is a good buy for a first or only rifle.

If you like the Mauser style look at the Charles Daly offering. The Czechoslovakian actions are made by Zastava formerly sold as the Interarms Mark X. I have two custom rifles on these actions and they are very accurate. Essentailly they are same as the famed FN Mausers.

The 7.62 x 39 is crap. I owned three - an AKS-47, an SKS, and the Ruger Mini 30. None best the Winchester Model 94 in .30-30. IMO they are underpowered and inaccurate for hunting deer sized game.

The Remington rifles are a superior product. I own the 788, several 700's and a 40X. Even the 788 in .223 will shoot groups well under an inch at 100 yards, and the 40X in .22-250 shoots under a half-inch.

Good hunting.

Well, Fellers -

I owe each of you a big apology - the previous discussion we had comparing cartridges was the 7.62x54R - NOT the 7.62x39!! My mistake - had a Senior Moment, I guess!! :o

You would be correct in saying the smaller round falls generally in the low catagory of a 30-30, or a .300 Savage, although I think the Savage would better the Russian cartridge by a long shot.

I'll try to remember what we're talking about, next time. :D

Hey, no problem kdub! You are always a gentleman and quite knowledgeable at that - we all make mistakes or misread things sometimes.

No apology necessary, as far as I'm concerned!