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Logansdad
10-11-2003, 07:26 AM
I carry my pistol always, whenever the law permits, inside or outside the house; at night it goes under my pillow, where I have slept with one on and off for 45 years. Am I utterly paranoid, do I feel that evil out to get me is lurking everywhere, am I so ruled by fear that I must have my
security blanket at all times?

No. To think so would be to completely misunderstand the role of the personal gun in my life. My pistol, combined with some competence in its use, has indeed been a wonderful comfort in a few potentially unpleasant circumstances, and the knowledge I can retain command of my immediate environment does tend to encourage a calm self-confidence in everyday life, while precluding panic in an emergency.

The chief virtue of the pistol is that I wear it; you do not have to go and fetch it when criminal violence threatens with shocking suddenness ‘out of the blue,’ as can happen even in peaceful Llano County, Texas, where I live. If you have time to fetch a gun, you would do better to grab a
shotgun, probably. Wear your pistol, keep all other firearms locked away.

On you, it is safe from kids and other unauthorized persons, you do not have to remember where you stashed it or fumble with the combination lock of a pistol safe. It is there, instantly ready to protect you and your family.

On the street concealed carry is usually required either by law or social usage and has the advantage of protecting everyone, even antigun liberals, because criminals cannot tell which of their potential victims might be armed.

Yet my pistol is more than just security. Like an Orthodox Jew’s yarmulke or a Christian cross, it is a symbol of who I am, what I believe and the moral standards by which I live. I

t symbolizes the Social Contract between myself and society and declares that I am no mere subject but a free and independent citizen of the Republic who holds inalienable rights while honoring the responsibilities that accompany those rights.

My pistol states that I will defend the common weal, that I will uphold what is right and decent and that I am willing and able to protect myself and mine. (The police cannot and are not required to protect the individual person or family. They are spread too thin for that. When called they will do their best, but all too often they can get there only in time to clean up the aftermath. You are responsible for your own safety.)

My pistol is my family's shield, my guarantee that upon my life I will let no evil touch them. When a malefactor demands, Your dignity and your money, or your life!" my pistol introduces a very sobering third alternative: No - if you persist in this criminal endeavor, it is your life that will be at hazard."

Many people will suggest that the contents of your wallet are not worth jeopardizing your life for, just hand it over to the thug and move on. By doing so you are encouraging crime - success ensures the robber will seek another victim. I consider it to be a citizen's duty (a hard word to the me generation) to resist attempted violent crime by all means at his disposal, even at considerable risk to himself.

Remember, action is always faster than reaction (unless your assailant has the reaction time of a Bill Jordan). Dissemble, pretend to go along. 'I don't w-w-want any trouble, you can have my wallet, I'm getting it out of my hip pocket now.' As your hand closes on your gun, yell: "Look out, behind you!" Side-step as you present the pistol , and when he turns back your front sight rests squarely on his chest. With variations to suit the particular circumstances, this sort of ploy will work far more often than most victims would believe. Statistics suggest that an intended victim who resists with a firearm is by a good margin less likely to be injured than one who does not resist at all. On the other hand, the surest way to survive a gunfight is not to get into one. Stay alert and avoid potentially bad situations if you possibly can. Research by Professor John Lott, Gary Kleck and others into the effects of concealed carry laws prove beyond quibbling that they reduce violent crime quite considerably.

Since it began to license responsible citizens to carry arms, Florida's murder rate has sunk from 36 percent above the national average to well below it, and overall the decline in violent crime in states with concealed carry laws (compared to the others) runs at east 15 percent for murder, II percent for robberies and 9 percent for rape, according to Professor Lott. Private citizens are said to use firearms in self-defense as often as a million times a year. In the vast majority of these incidents no blood is shed; the thug flees or surrenders. Nevertheless, it is claimed that private citizens justifiably in twice as many criminals as the entire law enforcement establishment in any given year.

Obviously, an armed and responsible citizenry is a very potent force in keeping crime in check. In many nations where private citizens are denied firearms - as most recently in Australia - violent crime is on the upswing, whereas in the U.S. the rate is declining.

However, the right to be armed does not depend on these facts; it goes way back to our very beginnings. Long before the Second Amendment and the rights acknowledged by English Common Law traditions, the right of a free man to bear arms was recognized by almost every culture or civilization that comes to mind. Until well into this sorry century, free men were armed, and like the yeomen of England and our own militia, they constituted the backbone of their
societies.

Every right includes commitments, not least the right to bear arms. Anyone who carries a pistol in public has an obligation to society to be reasonably competent with it, able to hit his target - under stress - rather than uninvolved bystanders; he must know and abide by the laws limiting the use of lethal force; he must avoid quarrels and altercations and understand that he will be held to higher standards of restraint and responsibility than an unarmed person. The course of instruction that is rightly required (in addition to background checks) in order to earn a Texas Concealed Handgun License teaches all this, and more, including conflict resolution. Passing a shooting test is mandatory, but the class does not include shooting instruction; you are expected to have arranged for adequate training beforehand. It is a fine course; anybody who intends to go armed ought to take a similar one.


My pistol has aided no evil, it has added not a tittle of gratuitous violence to the world. On the
contrary, its presence on my hip or on the Land Rover seat very definitely defused a couple of dangerous situations in the old days in Kenya. More recently, on a dark street, I am convinced the mere suspicion of its presence, engendered by my alert, confident demeanor, averted what could otherwise have been a nasty incident. Colt got it right; a pistol in the hands of a decent, courageous citizen is a convincing peacemaker. My pistol is a positive influence for stability, for decency, for righteousness, for freedom from fear and violence, for all that is right and proper. (If anyone can present a rational argument that factually disproves this statement, I will discard the gun and never carry it again.)

One's self-image matters a great deal; it is what charts one's course through life. If I refuse to compromise my integrity, my self-respect and what the Founding Fathers referred to as their
sacred honor, it is because ray image of myself will not permit it.Self-images are complex, of course. Basically I see myself as a sound and responsible citizen, a scrupulously law-abiding,
friendly, reasonable, middle-class, normally intelligent and fairly well educated paterfamilias with some understanding of true values who has been blessed beyond his deserts in this life and is truly grateful.

At the very root and foundation of my being, though, I am a warrior - a very mild one, but a warrior nevertheless - as any man must be to some degree. My pistol symbolizes that as such I will not be coerced by fear or by any political, social or physical threats whatsoever into doing
anything I consider dishonorable or unworthy of my self-respect. You can push me only so far,
but no farther. It symbolizes the positive side of the warrior spirit, which is the one force that can maintain respect for the law, stability, freedom, peace and decency in this world. Without it we are done.

Warriors and hunters tend to be fascinated by fine personal arms and will often cherish one above all others, far beyond its utility as a tool. That is why embellished firearms are commonplace, while engraved carpenter's hammers are not. I dote on my Colt Officer's ACP carry gun, and delight in its presence on my hip. Now do you begin to understand what my pistol means to me?

Be that as it may, our body of armed citizens has always been a potent force for law and order,
liberty and all that is good in the land. If we allow the hoplophobic left to destroy it on an
emotional whim, to make themselves 'feel good,' or in accordance with their unrealistic and failed
political philosophy, we will come to rue the day.

written by Finn Aagard
rest in peace

Silver_nine
05-15-2004, 11:45 AM
You should write a book sir, but i agree to a point. The only things left in this world i trust are my Gun, My dog, and top ramen! :D

FrankDrebin
05-15-2004, 12:20 PM
I've been a police officer for just about 20 years. A significant number of those years in one of the worst ghettos (ghettoes?) in the country. I rarely carry off-duty anymore unless I'm going to certain areas for some reason. Under your pillow? That's kind of strange in my opinion, but I don't begrudge you that behavior because it's your right. There are plenty of times where I'd just "hand it over" were I to be robbed, whether I was armed or not. The "warrior" mentality is all well and good, but if I'm out with my family, and something bad happens, my first action would be to get them, and myself, out of the way if possible and save any "warrioring" for a second, third or fouth option.

member, action is always faster than reaction (unless your assailant has the reaction time of a Bill Jordan). Dissemble, pretend to go along. 'I don't w-w-want any trouble, you can have my wallet, I'm getting it out of my hip pocket now.' As your hand closes on your gun, yell: "Look out, behind you!"

Just curious: How many times have you taken on some ghetto savage after he sticks a gun under your chin and goes for your wallet while his back-up man stands a few steps away? There was a Detroit cop a while ago who was in a bank that was being held-up. He did the warrior thing, and the hold-up man's partner, who was standing behind the cop in line as an ordinary-looking "customer" blew the cops brains all over the bank while the cop's 6 year-old son watched. More power to you if you can pull something like that off, but if my family were in the bank and you tried something like that, I'd shoot you myself. Believe it or not, more than one armed robber has a contingency plan for the victim who is apparently "dissembling", and many of them are not likely to fall for your "look out behind you" distraction. As a matter of fact, there are some out there who, if they think you're trying to BS them, would just pop you in the head first. Better hope you get one of the stupid ones. What if he's got you from behind with the gun in your back and starts to frisk you? The bad guys know that people carry guns too. Some of them are big and bad enough to want to take your wallet AND your gun. Ever bust a move on the bad guys in that kind of situation?

alyeska338
05-15-2004, 01:04 PM
Just to help clarify Logansdad's post, at the end, you can see the article was written by Finn Aagard, a well known writer and PH that passed away several years ago. Logansdad copied it to share with all of us.

Jim Rau
05-15-2004, 07:47 PM
Finn was a very good man, But
being paranoid is an illness, (expecting the unexpected)
being prepared for the unexpected is being responsible. :cool:
Frank,
I retired after 26 years in uniform (police) and I GO ARMED EVERYWHERE. One leason learned form two tours in RVN and 26 years on the street is the bad guys can and will attack when YOU LEAST EXPECT THEM TO. :eek:
I wear a seat belt, carry a fire extinguser, tow strap, jumper cables, first aid kit, and a tool kit. I try to be prepared to fend for myself and help others. (not to mention, duct tape, bailing wire, and shoe goo) ;)

WyomingSwede
05-16-2004, 07:28 AM
Thankfully,( and by choice) My family & I live in a low crime area. That being said, I carry when I travel and when I feel it necessary. It is always better to have it and not need it than the reverse.

Of course when you do carry...there is the responsibility/consequences if you do have to use it. That is not to be taken lightly...

swede

warpig
05-16-2004, 07:41 AM
Thankfully,( and by choice) My family & I live in a low crime area. That being said, I carry when I travel and when I feel it necessary. It is always better to have it and not need it than the reverse.

Of course when you do carry...there is the responsibility/consequences if you do have to use it. That is not to be taken lightly...

swede


I am with Swede in the low crime area. I usually have a gun around somewhere though, just in case protection is needed from bad guys or wild critters or invading aliens or something.

My neighbor sleeps with a gun under his pillow, that is not for me, especially with kids in the house.

FrankDrebin
05-16-2004, 10:48 AM
Logansdad copied it to share with all of us.

oops, sorry, I thought just the last paragraph was from Aagard..like a tag line.....I just prefer not to carry my gun everywhere, but I have no problem with people who do. It's just not for me anymore. but under the pillow??? I think that's dangerous. Not to mention bad for your spinal alignment.

What did you do in Vietnam JR?? Or more specifically what type of unit were you with?? I'm a bit of a history buff...

arkypete
05-16-2004, 07:03 PM
I've slept many a nap and night with a 45 in my right hand resting on my chest. I've carried a 45 into areas where I thought people of ill will may be.
Having a 45 on or about one's person is a terrible responsibility, not to mention a major pain in the lower regions.
When talking to a fellow I respect greatly, a guru, counsilor if you will, who pointed out that my defense strategies had been successful since I was alive, but they no longer applied.
I trust the Lord, first! Then I realized that anything I feared is what I would draw to me because to fear is to not trust in the Lord. So I trust in the Lord and do not take council in my fears, because my Lord is looking out for me and will allow no harm to come my way.
However the Lord will let me know when the occasion is appropriate for jacking the slide on the 45.
Jim

Jim Rau
05-16-2004, 07:57 PM
My first tour was 68-69 and I was with the 199th Light Infantry Brdg., 87th Engr Co (Combat). I went over as a supply specialist, but with in 60 days I was doing demolition work and was ojt and promoted in that mos, as well as the company armour (guns, cant' help but love them ;) ) I was out with the line Companys in the Brdg doing mostly infantry stuff and some engr stuff. But was put incharge of our portion of the ammo dump and had cart blanch to come and go as I pleased. I got hooked up with some guys from MACV and helped them out occasoinaly. (We can't descuss that).
Second tour 70-71 I wormed my way into flying (I originaly enlisted as a Warrant Officer Flight Candiate and wanted to fly in the worst way, still do, but I had alittle to much astigmatism and they would not let me compleat flight school). I was a UH-1H crewchief and logged over 1400 air hours, (one purple heart, and 38 air metals) and got, off the record ,about 100+ hours of stick time in Hueys, and Kiowas (Jet Rangers). I was originaly assigned to the 282nd Assault Helo Co (Black Cats) at Da Nang (Marble Mountian) until about mid way through my tour and I transfered to the 71st Assault Helo Co (Rattlers/Firebirds) In Chu Lai. We flew our acces off!!! The longest day in the air I logged was 14 hrs.. It was not uncommon to have 10+ hours of air time a day. We would fly right through intermendiats (inspections required every 25 flight hrs) and half way to the next in one day!! Not much sleep in those days.
Hope that explains it .
Jim :cool:

Bikenut2
05-16-2004, 08:05 PM
I don't understand people who do NOT carry at all times. I have yet to hear of a burgler calling on the phone or leaving a note on the door to let the homeowner know when he will break in. Nor have I heard of a bunch of toughs asking permission to mug and beat their victims. I've never seen any signs on cars that say "I indulge in random drive by shootings so watch out when I drive down your street". No criminal will pull a knife/gun on you and say "OK. I'm doing this all alone and don't have any friends hiding/hanging around helping me." No rapist has ever told his intended victim to be sure to bring a gun to the rape.

Criminals do NOT make an appointment with you to do their violence. They do NOT give you any warning. And no matter where you live, high crime or low crime areas, there is still crime! Crime that requires a victim for it to be a crime.

I refuse to be a timid victim! I carry at least one gun everywhere, in fact, my loaded Glock goes to the bathroom with me and is closer to hand than the toilet paper.

It used to be the only thing people had to fear was the occasional stick up man, smart arsed punks, and an outraged cuckolded husband. Things are different now with crack heads, gangs, road rage, drug fueled random violence, perverts, child stealing for profit, home intrusions, convience store robberys, and lazy jerks looking for something to steal instead of working at a job. Is carrying 24/7 paranoia? Like ****, it's just recognising the reality of life in today's society!

Don't let the above make you think I walk around continiously afraid of every sound I hear or every person I meet. I don't live my life like that. But I am aware of sounds and their potential for threat given the context of my surroundings and the same goes for the people I meet. But because my loaded gun is readily at hand at all times I have a better chance of surviving when things go bad. That gun would do me absolutely no good locked up in the gun safe when the bad guy accosts me in my own front yard. And no bad guy has ever called ahead to make an appointment to accost me so I never know when it will happen. Because of that simple fact I carry at all times.

Jim Rau
05-16-2004, 08:13 PM
One of the things I would like to share with you is something I learned very early in life, and has been reenforced MANY times.
"Any one is capable of anything , anywhere, anytime".
This goes for both good and bad.
BE PREPARED, IT IS THE SAFE RESPONSABLE THING TO DO. :cool:

ExtremeDooty
05-16-2004, 08:21 PM
at night it goes under my pillow,

If he'd had some of the dreams I've had, he'd never keep a weapon of any kind under his pillow.

Jim Rau
05-16-2004, 10:10 PM
DO NOT keep a loaded gun under your pillow. Put it under the edge of the mattres about where your hand would go if you slip it over the edge of the bed. You can arm yourself silently and out of view (if the covers hang over the edge) and you don't a loaded gun "in bed" with you!!!! :eek:
Just one the things I cover in my self defense classes. ;)

Arthur_500
05-16-2004, 10:51 PM
As a former Boy Scout I live by the edict, "Be Prepared". If I am not wearing a knife I am naked. I carry other tools that I feel may be appropriate in certain situations and sometimes that tool includes a gun.
The first tool to carry is the gray matter between your ears. The second tool to carry is the training, practice and competence to use the tools you choose. The third tool to carry is the attitude necessary to take control of those tools.
A carpenter who carries a saw but is incompetent to cut accurately is a fool and dangerous. If he is afraid to use that saw because he might not use it well then he might just as well leave it in its case.
Years ago I lived in Sitka, an island in southeast Alaska, where there were a large population of brown bears and dense boreal forests. Frequently an induvidual might come into a bank or a store carrying or wearing a gun. It was humorous to see the looks on the faces of tourists when some chap would set his pack and long-gun by the door and approach a teller wearing a sidearm. Why?
I will wear a sidearm concealed for the benefit of those citizens who have been taught that guns are to be feared. I often wonder if this is really the best course of action.
I need no special permit to carry a sidearm. Honest, decent people need not fear my sidearm, or me, any more than they need fear the cop who wears a sidearm. What they need to learn to fear is the individual who conceals his weapon and is devious. Maybe more of us should wear our sidearms openly so the 'bad guys' learn to know who to fear and the 'good guys' learn to be comfortable with sidearms.

Jim Rau
05-16-2004, 11:39 PM
That, in theory, sound good but it dose not work.
1. If your weapon is visable it is accessable to all around you.
2. As you stated it will cause undue attention and some times alarm.
3. And most important, it would give up your tactical advantage of suprise.

FrankDrebin
05-17-2004, 05:56 AM
Hope that explains it .
Sounds like they kept you busy...If you're ever in Detroit, let me know...We're going on a kind of a pub crawl, WWII 101st. ABD-related thing this month...A buddy was with the 326th Engineers in RVN, another guy with the Ghost Riders (389th AHC??? can't remember) A Comanchero, an 80 year-old pathfinder from WWII, and hopefully another buddy who was with the 16th. SOS....he was on the first Spectre crew over Laos....and assorted other cops, chiropractors and history nuts....And welcome home...

Jim Rau
05-17-2004, 06:12 AM
Thank you. I also spent 8 years in the Guard SF. (80 thru 88)
A521 19th Gp. ;)

Walter30-06
05-17-2004, 07:31 PM
I trust the Lord, first! Then I realized that anything I feared is what I would draw to me because to fear is to not trust in the Lord. So I trust in the Lord and do not take council in my fears, because my Lord is looking out for me and will allow no harm to come my way.
However the Lord will let me know when the occasion is appropriate for jacking the slide on the 45.
Jim

I trust in the Lord, too, but a gun without a bullet in the chamber is just a pretty (and in some cases not ugly) paperweight. that's the beauty of a revolver. It's either loaded or it ain't. ;)


Walter30-06:cool:

HadEmAll
05-19-2004, 06:41 PM
By Logansdad:
"......at night it goes under my pillow.....,"
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By ExtremeDooty:
"If he'd had some of the dreams I've had, he'd never keep a weapon of any kind under his pillow."
__________________________________________________ _________________

I agree 120%. I tried that and fortunately learned my lesson at the expense of a hole in the curtains and a pane of glass when I dreamed the Migs were coming at my ship again. It could have been much worse. The bullet apparently found a target other than one of my neighbors. Imagine how bad that would have been. Don't keep a pistol under the pillow. Nobody is in control when they're asleep. They just think they are. You need to have to perform more than one action to get the pistol into action just to give yourself that split second more to get lucid.

tanker
05-21-2004, 06:38 PM
I always kept my .45 in my shoulder holster when I slept. It gives you time to wake up, find it, release the strap, and the safety. Now I keep a loaded glock 20 in a pistol safe next to my bed. I safe my carry gun and leave my keys in the lock before retiring. I used to just hang my shoulder holster over the bedpost but after my first kid was born went to the pistol safe. I personally don't suffer from the type of night terrors that some people do, I have been lucky in never being in the type of situations that cause them. My father, wwII vet, did have them until his death, and a good friend of mine that was stationed at the marine barracks in Beirut did for years until he got some goodcounseling (3 years worth). Like Dirty Harry said" a mans got to know his limitations". What works for me might not work for you. I have a m66 Smith in my belt as I write this, sitting in my own livingroom. Some people would consider that paranoid, and where they live it might be, but there have been 4 people murdered within 6 blocks of my house within the last4 years. I personally believe that the safest place to keep a weapon is on your person and loaded. I also believe that the Lord expects me to protect my family. I also love handguns and practice regularly. This works for me, it might not for you. I don't have any disagreement with any one that doesn't feel comfortable carrying, you know what your situation is better then I do. However if you get into trouble and I'm a witness to it, I won't endanger my family to protect you. The police have no legal responsibility to protect you, they probably will if they can, but they might not be able to. I've lived in places where the response time was usually 2 hrs, I prefer to depend on myself. I've been assaulted before, I made the decision I wouldn't be again if I could help it. I intend to succeed or die trying. Thats my decision, it might not be yours. I believe that every adult American should resist evil at every opportunity, that is what has made our country safe in the past and is our only hope for the future. When the people of this country decide I can't be trusted to protect myself and my family I will go someplace else to live.

Mr. Kaneko
05-22-2004, 09:53 AM
I tend to avoid situations or places where having a gun on me would make me feel safer. If you are not paying attention to where you are and the people around you, well, don't expect a pistol to extricate you from the situation.
That's common sense
A lot of fine, upstanding people who trust in the lord have been killed by their own gun. Bummer.

papajohn428
05-22-2004, 02:36 PM
My Mantra:
1. All guns are loaded
2. There is no peace in Condition White
3. All that is necessary for Evil to triumph is for good men to sit idly by.
4. You can't make an appointment for an emergency.
5. See signature quote below.

PJ

monty
05-22-2004, 02:38 PM
i'm never more than a moment away from a reliable firearm of some sort. sometimes it's on my person, and sometimes it's just close. sometimes it's a marine 870 with mag ext. and sometimes it's a rimfire. but i can always get one fast. i live in a low crime area, so i have the luxury of letting my level of awareness compensate for sometimes bieng more than than arms reach from a gun. but if i feel a little uncomfortable with the threat level, i'll be carrying a cocked/locked .45.

monty

Mr. Kaneko
05-23-2004, 08:45 AM
My Gun code is as follows:
1. Every gun is a loaded gun
2. Don't get shot with your own gun
3. Respond, don't react
4. Call 911 with your gun out

marineman
03-07-2005, 08:12 PM
personally, I feel that the knife goes under the pillow, the pump shotgun under the bed, and the .45 in a drawer on the bedstand, but whatever works for you.