Thanks for answering my other questions about this gun. I have a new issue with the bullets. The remington sp 55 grains pop out when the breach is opened no problem but when I shoot the Winchester supreme's cxp-1 ballistic silvertips they get jammed and will not exit the chamber, I have to use my 22 cleaning rod to push the casing out. Is it possible to buy store bought bullets that are "too hot" and expand in the chamber causing this problem?

Is the extractor missing the rim because the rim is too small, or is the extractor gripping the rim, but not pushing the case out? Does your rifle have a spring loaded extractor without a mechanical push? If the extractor is gripping, the Winchesters are a bit hot for your rifle, or the chamber is a bit rough and perhaps softer brass is expanding and gripping the chamber.

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Jack

Salty, it's uncommon but it does happen. I have a 6mm Rem with a rough bore and the Fed. loads don't want to extract very easily, but Remington are fine. Haven't tried Winchester yet.

Salty, it's uncommon but it does happen. I have a 6mm Rem with a rough bore and the Fed. loads don't want to extract very easily, but Remington are fine. Haven't tried Winchester yet.
Thanks for the help guys, It seems like it's gripping but won't push it out. When I push on the empty case with the cleaning rod it's really tight in there. What do you mean about a rough bore? Should I continue shooting the remington brand bullets out of this gun and ditch the cxp-1's?? This is my luck.

The bore and throat are rough on the 6mm and I think that it gives the bullet a little more resistance starting out and pushes the pressure up.

I would NOT take it hunting or shoot it with any ammo that gives sticky extraction. I am going to lap the bore on the 6mm since it appears to be the obvious problem, and try again.

On your gun, if the chamber and bore look smooth, then perhaps it has a short throat and/or tight dimensions that are contributing to increased pressure. Hard to say for sure but best thing is to not shoot any ammo that gives pressure signs like that.

Stick with the Remington ammo till you know for sure....

Does it eject unfired Winchesters? If they don't, the case is too fat or too long or the bullet is seated out to far for your chamber throat.

There's a chance you got a hot lot of Winchesters and another lot might be OK. The .22-250 wasn't loaded commerically until 1965 and the ammo companies aren't afraid of somebody shooting it in an antique that can't handle it. That's a problem the .45-70 has in spades. Better stick to the Remingtons.

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Jack

Jack, it will eject the unfired winchesters, when I put back in the spent casing it automatically has a hard time closing and will not eject that case, it is a single fire harrington and richardson with a fiddleback maple stock. very nice gun but I wish I could shoot the winchesters out of it. Do you recommend any particular type of bullets for this rifle? I do not have a die for it yet because I'm not sure if the guy is willing to sell it to me. I'd love to own it but if not I'm going to buy a ruger #1 single shot 22-250 and mount it up with a nice leupold.

Sounds to me like you have a pressure problem when the fired casings won't fit back into the rifle. You should stop using that ammo as a matter of safety to yourself and others who may be nearby when you are shooting. It's never good to blow up a borrowed gun either!:)

Hi, Salty:
If the unfired shells aren't sticking, you've definitely got a pressure problem. Can you try the Winchesters in a different rifle? Probably best to forget them for now. A bolt action will cam out a sticky shell and it might not be noticeable if you aren't paying attention. I'd be interested in chronographing them to see if they're faster than book velocity.

What you want of a .22-250 is accuracy first and speed second. If the Remingtons shoot under an inch at 100 yards, it's time to go hunting. I don't have a .22-250, but I'd try the Hornady 55 grain V-Max bullets first. Incidentally, Ruger #1s have a reputation for being a bit cranky about accuracy. Some of them shoot out of the box and some need some tweaking on the forend wood and a setscrew in the front hanger that puts pressure on the barrel.
http://www.beartoothbullets.com/tech_notes/archive_tech_notes.htm/4

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Jack

Thanks, I will use the remingtons for now. What would be a great out of the box rifle in the 22-250 caliber? Maybee another bolt action remington? Is this gun that I am borrowing now considered a quality rifle? it is a harrington and richardson ultra 28 single shot.

Right now Savage seems the best buy, with very good accuracy and not too many quality control problems. Their new varmint trigger has received very favourable reviews, but I haven't tried one yet. Remington, on the other hand, is going down hill.

Is your H&R a quality rifle? If it shoots 1/2" - 3/4" groups at 100 yards, it is. Getting down that tight depends on the shooter as much as the rifle, even off the bench. If you can't get groups that small, see if you can get an old benchrest shooter to try it before you give up.

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Jack

Jack, why is remington going down hill?? I will be sure to check out savage rifles, I thought they were marketed towards the budgeted shooters. The rifle I am shooting now is a loaner for me to try out before I decide to buy that type of varmiter cartridge. How about winchester? I'm quite sad to hear that about remington since all of my rifles except for 3 are remi's

Hi, Salty:
The new corporate owners are cost cutting, apparently. The hammer-forged barrels are much rougher and stressed than the old button rifled ones. I've got more Remingtons than any other make too, and I am disappointed. Winchester is in the middle, apparently.

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Jack

Thanks for answering my other questions about this gun. I have a new issue with the bullets. The remington sp 55 grains pop out when the breach is opened no problem but when I shoot the Winchester supreme's cxp-1 ballistic silvertips they get jammed and will not exit the chamber, I have to use my 22 cleaning rod to push the casing out. Is it possible to buy store bought bullets that are "too hot" and expand in the chamber causing this problem?

Salty,

I have a Tikka T3 Hunter, in 22-250, excellent gun, unmodded.
However I may be able to throw some light on your stuck case problem. As others have said it is over pressure causing it, but its not a problem with the firearm.

I have used win supreme ballistic tip like you, mine eject fine, however on close inspection, the primers are a fair bit flattened. This particular offering from Winchester is obviously a fairly hot load, and on the limit. Use other ammo you'll be fine.
Incidentally, to give you an idea how hot a load it must be, I was working up some sierra 60gr the other day, using AR2208, and I was up at the max load of 34gr, and didnt see any signs of over pressure at all.

I dont intend to buy supreme again for that reason, and price, v expensive, I just bought em to try em out, I must however put my bullet puller on one and find out just how much powder they are putting in them.

Hope this helps

Ron

Every H&R/NEF single shot rifle I have had my hands on in the last 5 years has had an extremely rough chamber. Everyone had to be lapped out in order to extract some certain brand of ammo. One wouldn't extract, Rem., another Win. etc... Look for scratches on the cases when you use your rod to eject them, this will indicate rough chambers.

Allen :)

Ron, I did notice the primers on the winchesters flattening out a little bit. I'll try the remington ammo tomorrow and post the results.

Don't forget to give the CZ's a look before buying a 22-250. I personally own a Rem VS in 22-250 thats a great shooter, didn't know that Rem was tring to cheapen up there rifles, good to know for future purchases. Anyway I just aquired a CZ 527 Varmint in 17 Rem and love it, if I had the 22-250 to do over agian the CZ would get a serious look. The CZ out of the box IMO is the best value going, the tigger is superb, both regular and the set feature, and the accuracy is tack driving to say the least. With my handloads .3" 5 shot at 100 yards. And thats out of the box, nothing but my handloads added. Give em a look

[ I shoot the Winchester supreme's cxp-1 ballistic silvertips they get jammed and will not exit the chamber]


I have a Tikka T3 in 2-250 and have fired every imaginable safe load from it. I reload my own due to being able to get a superior round than i could buy.
However, whilst i was experimenting with factory stuff, i tried win supremes, and whilst they didnt jam, i did notice very flattened primers, a sure sign of pressure getting out of limits, so i would say its the ammo not the gun, as i have seen a good few posts here aswell relating to how hot supremes run. Just dont buy em, they are usually way overpriced for what they are anyway. Reload your own, you cant beat it.
(i know every gun is different but......)

just for the record, I use 55gr Hornady sp, with 34gr of Benchmark 2, that gives me a 1" group at 100mtrs, and if I tried harder could probably improve on that.

good luck

Ron

While I haven't used the Winchester Supremes, I did have a similar problem with some Remington factory loads. A real head-scratcher until I looked at the cases forward of the shoulder, very bright. Got out the calipers and measured fired and unfired cases. I found that this batch had a fairly thick neck, within specs but barely. Since I use Rem cases a lot for my 22-250 I was a little suprised. It's usually thicker than say, Winchester brass, but not too bad. Maybe you got a bad batch of Win brass?
Good shooting,
HP