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billyboez
12-01-2003, 09:28 AM
What are the pros & cons of the Remington Model 700 Muzzleloader? Is it in the top 5 or not?

Carignan577
12-02-2003, 08:41 AM
I am sure it is a reliable and accurate rifle, just like the rest of the Remingtons in the world.

The only 'cons' I can think of are that it does not have a side lock and slower twist rifling!! ;)

Bigfoot
12-02-2003, 02:35 PM
I have had mine for several years. It is a stainless model which I highly recommend. It shoots anything within reason that is stuffed into the barrel. It didn't like the 500 gr flat nose bullets I tried but anything up to 400 gr was stabilized. The accuracy was more than could be asked, 1.5 MOA at 100 yards.

samchap
12-02-2003, 06:23 PM
Have to pay attention to the cleaning of the firing pin spring after shooting, otherwise it will rust into a non-firing state. primer flash will burn a scope if you don't put a protective wrap on it. The bad weather shroud, for the nipple, forces more primer flash into the firing pin spring area. My Rem700ss is practically a tack driver at 100 yards with 240 grain XPTs and 60 grains of powder. I hunt with 385 grain buffalo saboted spitzer bullets with 100 grains of powder. I get 11/2" - 2" at 100 yards with this load...plenty good for my deer hunting in the Maine woods.

samchap

Big Bore
12-02-2003, 06:39 PM
I've had mine since the first year they hit the market. The only con about the rifle is in relation to states where in-lines are not allowed. It is superbly accurate and extremely reliable. If it doesn't go boom when you pull the trigger, you forgot to load it or made some other silly mistake. On my list of BP rifles it holds the No.1 position solidly.

billyboez
12-10-2003, 03:34 PM
Carignan577,
What's a side lock & why would I want a slower twist?
Bigfoot,
I was planning on the SS & synthetic stock (low maintainence).
samchap,
I've read about the cleaning problem. Doesn't that have to do with what powder you use? Also, I'm planning on a scope so I'll look into the primer flash problem a little more. I like driving tacks!
Big Bore,
I live in Michigan & plan to go elk hunting in Colorado. I think in-lines are OK for either state???
To all,
What about standard vs magnum?
Thanks,
Bill

samchap
12-10-2003, 06:13 PM
Billyboez....I recently asked about inline receiver fouling and was told thqt it may be a combination of two things: primer flash or blowback from the main charge igniting. I have been using cleanshot annd the fouling I see is black not the gray that cleanshot produces. So I would say that the fouling in inline receivers is "mostly" from primer flash. I was questioning if switching to a 209 primer would alleviate receiver fouling , and the answer I got was No, the 209 primer produces a flash too. This was based on a segment in a training video, produced by one of the inline manufactures that espouced 209 primers, that emphasized receiver cleaning. Hope this helps.

samchap

Carignan577
12-10-2003, 06:47 PM
billy,
just being a wise guy! I think they should be great in-lines, I just prefer the older style, I'm a sucker for nostalgia(did I spell this right? where's my dictionary?)

enjoy, at least you won't get that flash-delay-BOOM that I sometimes get in my flintlock. :)

Buzzard1
12-11-2003, 04:46 AM
Have 2 ea of the Rem 700's in BP in 50 cal. Both with 3X9 scopes. Both set at lowest power. One is my son's blued youth model and mine a S/S. Both are quite accurate and have taken several deer with them when we lived in Kentucky.

I kept it simple for the loading for my son and I. Shoot 100gr. of Pyrodex, (2ea of 50gr pellets), Remington wonder patch under 240gr sabots. These are accurate, simple loads. I kept it simple and repeatable for both of us. Both of us are novices to BP. P.S. - 200 rds, 2 rifles at range for sighting and fine tuning equals sore shoulder next day.

Alk8944
12-11-2003, 12:25 PM
Billyboez,

FYI, Colorado permits in-line guns with these restrictions:
Deer, Pronghorn, Bear; Min. 40 caliber
Elk, Moose; Min. 50 caliber

Sights; No scopes or optical sights, iron only

Powder; No pelleted powders

You might want to check their proclamation which can be found at:

http://wildlife.state.co.us/ The entire proclamation (they call iot a brochure) can be printed if you have Adobe Acrobat. The weapons restrictions are found on page 7 of the Index

Bigfoot
12-12-2003, 11:44 AM
The firing pin and spring cleaning is definitely a must for reliability. Was at a friends shop when some goober came in with his Rem ML, said he missed a buck because it wouldn't fire. The 10 seconds it took to remove the bolt and disassemble it revealed a solid mass of fouling that blocked the firing pin. The disassembly and cleaning is easy and a normal part of cleaning.

quaken
01-03-2004, 02:09 PM
I have a Remington 700 ML SS in 45 cal the first thing I figured out was the nipple and firingpin set up by the factory was nothing but junk with the factory 209 nipple less than 50 percent of the fire went down flashinghole the photographs on showing here are of the conversion kit sold by Cabela's, personally I just bought the nipple and then converted the firingpin myself on the grinder this aftermarket nipple when installed 100 percent of the fire goes down the flash hole and made misfires disappear!!!!!!!!!!

Buzzard1
01-04-2004, 03:27 PM
Bigfoot,

How far are you from Evansville???? I lived in E-ville for about
5 years.

The smith who took the weapon apart name wouldn't have been Stan would it?


Tanks and Arty,

Bigfoot
01-04-2004, 04:29 PM
I am near Louisville, the shop in question is near Brownstown.

bdhaley
02-06-2004, 01:04 PM
Hey guys,
I live in Indiana and I have a Remington 700 MLS 50 cAL MAGNUM stainless steel and 3X9 Bushnell scope that I would sale. email bdhaley@indiana.edu if your interested.