Hey everyone, just got back from Wisconsin and I dropped by a local pawn shop there. After looking around, I sort of fell in love with a Chinese SKS that they had there. Here is the thing, I'm going back Friday and right now I'm doing some research about this gun. If anyone can tell me any little bit of info about this gun I would be very happy to hear it, I mean anything, operation, shooting, accuracy, cleaning, etc. As I said before I really don't know much about the gun currently but I'm going to read about it. And also, if you have any personal comments about this gun, weather you like it or not, I would also very much want to hear them.

Oh my..... where to start.

Basic com-bloc infantry gun.... pretty simple, tough, reliable. Ammo is cheap. I doubt if it would be terribly accurate.

If they're cheap, and you just want something to take to the range to blast away with, probably not a bad choice.

Ya thats basically what I want it for, target shooting, and I've also just read about the whole history and what the gun is made for and all that so ya, thats the stuff I got down so far, anything else, I'm glad to hear it.

My buddy bought one. It's pretty simple to strip down, if you've got the instructions. Accuracy wasn't bad as I remember, about 2 1/2" at 100 yards. It was better than his Ruger Mini-14 for sure. They tend to be more accurate than the AK-47, I've heard.

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Jack

Thats good to know, I figured it would be pretty accurate, people tell me not to get it becuause I don't know I think they are sort of against soviet made things, but I dont car its a nice gun, its accurate, as you say and I know the ammo is cheap, by the way is there an instruction manual online or something for the gun. And I came up with a few questions, do you need the round stripper to load it or can you do it by hand, and is it possible to hook up the AK-47 clips to it?

by the way is there an instruction manual online or something for the gun

Dunno about online, but here's one which you can buy for $17.

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/spytechagency/11710.html

Ask Father Christmas.

You can load them without stripper clips, but they're cheap around here. No idea about AK-47 mags. One thing we didn't figure out when we got it home. It was shooting high even with the rear sight all the way down. It turns out you screw the front sight up for initial zeroing. There's a special tool, but I was told that a thin pair of needle-nosed pliers will work. The Hanned Line site had an article on glass bedding them, but it's down now, and may be down permanently (ugly rumour).

My buddy has a manual, but he's 300 miles away. If you're desperate, I'll see what I can do. He bought one of those sardine cans of chinese hard point that hold over a thousand rounds for about the price of .22 Long Rifle. If you're in Canada, get in touch with Phil & Diane in Edmonton. http://www.p-d-ent.com/pages/ourstore.html

I found some operating instructions here.
http://users.frii.com/gosplow/sks.html

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Jack

Hey everyone, just got back from Wisconsin and I dropped by a local pawn shop there. After looking around, I sort of fell in love with a Chinese SKS that they had there. Here is the thing, I'm going back Friday and right now I'm doing some research about this gun. If anyone can tell me any little bit of info about this gun I would be very happy to hear it, I mean anything, operation, shooting, accuracy, cleaning, etc. As I said before I really don't know much about the gun currently but I'm going to read about it. And also, if you have any personal comments about this gun, weather you like it or not, I would also very much want to hear them.


EXCELLENT GUN!!! It was my first deer rifle and good Lord willing and the creek don't rise, I'll never get rid of it. I don;t know what kind of groups it'll shoot, but it's accurate enuff to kill a deer. CHEAP TO SHOOT!!! $3.50 per 20 rds, $89 per 1000rds. BUY IT!!!! BUY IT!!! BUY IT!!! YOU WON"T BE SORRY YOU DID!!!

Thats good to know, I figured it would be pretty accurate, people tell me not to get it becuause I don't know I think they are sort of against soviet made things, but I dont car its a nice gun, its accurate, as you say and I know the ammo is cheap, by the way is there an instruction manual online or something for the gun. And I came up with a few questions, do you need the round stripper to load it or can you do it by hand, and is it possible to hook up the AK-47 clips to it?

The SKS is a fun gun. It is simple and reliable. Millions were made before the AK-47 replaced it. So they were stored away for years sometimes, then refurbished and sold cheap. Their tolerances vary greatly depending on who made them. The Chinese made rifles have chromed barrels ( which is good ) but the metal they used varies in strength. If the gun you saw has a lot of tooling marks on it, the metal is soft and not of good quality. The stocks on the Chinese rifles are usually made of Pine. Soft wood that dents easly. The real Sovet Eroupean stuff is a better made rifle. Hard wood stocks and better metal. This rifle has seen action in all types of enviroments, where ever the AK is used, this rifle is usually close.

The ammo is cheap but is very corrosive. The rifle must be cleaned, barrel and blow back tube, as soon as possible after shooting it. The ammo is inherently inaccurate as the laquered steel case cartridge was made to go boom rather than hit a target a ways off. It is the same cartridge as used by the AK-47. If you reload using brass cases, you can get better accuracy. How much depends on the gun.

An AK clip will not fit a SKS. After you have disassembled your SKS to clean all the grease out of it. You can leave the fixed magazine well off and buy some special aftermarket 30 round clips for it. They look like AK clips with tongues on top to fit the empty hole. But know that in some states, this mod is illegal. If you leave the fixed magazine on it, it will usually feed better and is easly loaded by hand or stripper clip.

Thats good to know, I figured it would be pretty accurate, people tell me not to get it becuause I don't know I think they are sort of against soviet made things, but I dont car its a nice gun, its accurate, as you say and I know the ammo is cheap, by the way is there an instruction manual online or something for the gun. And I came up with a few questions, do you need the round stripper to load it or can you do it by hand, and is it possible to hook up the AK-47 clips to it?


You can load by hand, but I put a detachable 30 rounder on mine. And yes you can have them modified to take an AK clip, although I don't know what it would cost to get this done.

BUY IT!!!! I love my Chinese SKS. Trust me man, you won't be sorry if you get one.

Walter30-06

I think I'm good with instruction manual, I think I'll buy the one on that link, by the way can anyone else tell me about the accuracy because my father, who formarlly lived in communist Poland don't think this gun can shoot for **** and only thinks im wasting my money if I buy it. I dont believe this, and since my dad is so narrow minded he thinks his **** mountain rifle (muzzleloader) will out shoot it with round balls. He doesn't want to buy a normal American rifle because he doesn't want to spend the money and I cant afford that, and since the SKS is cheap ~$250ish and ammo is DIRT CHEAP I wanted to go with that. My dad thinks that the world's most produced rifles (AK-47) suck and are only designed to shoot a whole clip and hit with one bullet. Its hard to convince such a narrow minded person. So ya is it accurate, because I think it is if they were mass produced just like AK's

Oh one more thing, idk if this will help but its a Narinco rifle, and ya I just saw the whole thing with the 30 rd clip with that extend tongue and ya I may consider idk, It will just drain the bullets faster lol

I think I'm good with instruction manual, I think I'll buy the one on that link, by the way can anyone else tell me about the accuracy because my father, who formarlly lived in communist Poland don't think this gun can shoot for **** and only thinks im wasting my money if I buy it. I dont believe this, and since my dad is so narrow minded he thinks his **** mountain rifle (muzzleloader) will out shoot it with round balls. He doesn't want to buy a normal American rifle because he doesn't want to spend the money and I cant afford that, and since the SKS is cheap ~$250ish and ammo is DIRT CHEAP I wanted to go with that. My dad thinks that the world's most produced rifles (AK-47) suck and are only designed to shoot a whole clip and hit with one bullet. Its hard to convince such a narrow minded person. So ya is it accurate, because I think it is if they were mass produced just like AK's


I bought a NIG (new in grease) Chinese SKS in the mid '80s. Resplendent in spike bayonet and with sling, chest bandolier, 20 stripper clips and 100 rounds of ammo it came to $99. It is good for 3.5 to 4 inch 100 yard groups with just about any trash ammo. Adding a 30 round magazine to a post ban gun is a violation of the AWB. Not a big deal, as the 10 round en bloc magazine is superior in all respects to the aftermarket goodies available. Buy a pack or two of stripper clips for it and have fun.

I have a Chinese (Norinco) and a Russian SKS. Altho the fit & finish on the Russian piece is much better, i worked in a sporting goods store when i got my Norinco, so hand-picked it & got the best of the bunch. The trigger on mine is good, some were just terrible. Both shoot about 3"-4" groups at 100 yds. They're lotsa fun, and an ok deer rifle as long as you keep the range reasonable. In a local store a Yugo SKS goes for $215, so i don't know about the price (i paid $59 for my Norinco in '94), but if you want it (and that's what's important here, IMO), get it.

There are a couple of things to look for. Some Norinco SKS had screwed in barrels and some with pinned barrels. Look at the trigger group......if the trigger guard is welded on, it has a pinned barrel. If the trigger group is milled, it has a screwed in barrel. I have found the ones with a milled trigger group and screwed in barrle to be better guns.
This firearm has a floating firing pin and it is very important to remove all shipping and storage grease from the inside of the bolt.
Best Regards, James

Good point about the pinned barrel (mine is screwed in)...and the coupla times that i tried to change to a 30 rd mag i could never get it to fit & feed like i wanted. I just use strippers and the built-in mag. I also tried a synthetic stock but it always felt loose so i put the original wood stock back on.

Ok I'm going to check all that stuff on the trigger guard and all and about the grease. Is it normal for the Norinco model to be around $250, there is also a Yugo model at the store for $219, this one is a little crazy though, it has the sight for a granade launcher, bayonet, the thing on the muzzle that eliminates the flash, I got like a mental block and the name cant come to me, I think its called a flash deflector or whatever you know what I mean, and all that stuff on it but idk its kind of in a crappy condition, I mean compared to the Norinco, because that one is like all polished, nothing really worn out except maybe a few scratches in the stock, so idk, is the Yugo model much better, personally idk because I was figuring that the cleaner Norinco would be better but idk much about it. I'm gonna check both again because idk if I misunderstood what I read other places but people say that European models are better than the Norinco, so idk its kind of a hard decision but ya, any help would be nice

I'd buy the Yugo. The ones I've seen are nicer than my Norinco.

My Norinco is in much better "appearance" shape than my Russian, but that's b/c its much newer. I don't know, i would think the Yugo would be better than the Norinco based on a couple of yugo Mausers i have, but maybe someone that has better knowledge here than me can help? Its really been a long time since i've messed much with mine.

The SKS is a remarkable engineering feat, and worth owning just to see how clever the design is in detail when you take it down. The ammo you choose will have a big effect on accuracy, but for blasting away at cans it doesn't matter. However, the shellac coated steel cases can get very hot and gum up your chamber, particularly Wolf Ammo.

For more serious shooting and even hunting, Barnaul makes the best steel cased ammo and it can be had with soft point or hollw point bullets. Whatever you rifle shoots with Wolf ammo, this stuff will cut it in half and has a lot more velocity. My SKS clocks 2485 fps with very small variations in velocity with Barnaul. If you hunt with soft point from aNY manufacturer, chamber and eject a few and examine the lead tip for deformation...this will hurt accuracy and indicate that the HPs are a better choice.

I also shoot the same 7.62X39 round in my bolt CZ carbine and the Barnaul ammo is 1.5 MOA, with handloads 0.55 MOA. The case is very compact and strong, and the basis for some of the most accurate bench rest rounds in the world, including the 22 PPC and the 6MM PPC.

There are some very nice synthetic and composite stocks around for the SKS, and it is fun to dress them up with a small scope.

There one thing that idk about the yugo model i have been offered because as i said before its beat up but again there is some kinda switch on top that switches from semi to single shot (at least thats what the guy said) and the switch looks like a thumb tack and moves in tha "T" shape motion. anyways this switch is messed up and he said he couldnt ever get it to stay. and then the granade launcher site is a pain to close, so idk im going to have to look at it again. Do the riflings in the barrel ware out easily, im going to go there with a bore light to check it out.

By the way where do you guys buy Barnaul ammo. Can you get it online, or does anyone know a place by Chicago. Believe it or not you actually can get ammo in Cook County(Chicagoland) but you cant buy it online and have it shipped to you if you live in Cook County.

There one thing that idk about the yugo model i have been offered because as i said before its beat up but again there is some kinda switch on top that switches from semi to single shot (at least thats what the guy said) and the switch looks like a thumb tack and moves in tha "T" shape motion. anyways this switch is messed up and he said he couldnt ever get it to stay. and then the granade launcher site is a pain to close, so idk im going to have to look at it again. Do the riflings in the barrel ware out easily, im going to go there with a bore light to check it out.

If the switch at the end of the barrel is messed up, I wound not get it. The thing you think is a flash suppresser, is in fact the grenade launching tube. When the switch is straight up it is in single shot or launch mode. The ladder sight is raised and a tube, holding a grenade, is fitted over the end of the barrel. A blank is put into the chamber and boom, instant artillery. And all in NATO spec as well, nice. The ladder sight is lowered and locked down by the "thumb tack" switch when it is moved to it's semi fire mode (to the right). If the switch is messed up, the blow back valve it controls may be messed up too.

Yugo's do not have chrome lined barrels like the Norinco's. As such corrosion is easier in the barrel. From what you have said, I lean towards the Norinco. But for over $200, it had better be a milled receiver.

Dang thanks now I know exactly what the whole thing does, ya thats what it was called flash suppressor. Ok if everything goes right I may just get it, I just hope its still gonna be there when I'm ready to buy it.