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Leon Miller
01-26-2004, 05:19 PM
Can somebody reccomend a good cast bullet for the 35 Whelen. I would prefer a Lyman mold as I have only Lyman handles. It would be nice if it was big enough to hunt with. I would even consider a paper patch mold. Thanks for your input.
Sincerely Leon
Ranch Dog
01-27-2004, 05:31 AM
Leon,
I'm not a 35 Whelen shooter but I thought I would look through my books and the only mold I see available through Lyman is #358315 with is a 206-grain round nose. RCBS has several rifle bullets available; the #38-175-RN and 35-200-FN. All of Lee's are pistol bullets.
I'm interested in cast bullet for my Marlin 336D, .35 Rem., when I finish up on my 444 Marlin project. I plan on using Lee's Custom Mold Service to produce a 185-grain RF bullet.
I edited this reply to include a web site address:
http://www.mountainmolds.com/
They offer a 225-grain round nose mold. All their molds are available in aluminum, brass, or iron. They also offer a custom mold service that you can design the bullet online. It's a pretty good place to start.
Can somebody reccomend a good cast bullet for the 35 Whelen. I would prefer a Lyman mold as I have only Lyman handles. It would be nice if it was big enough to hunt with. I would even consider a paper patch mold. Thanks for your input.
Sincerely Leon
Leon,
Lyman's 358318 about 250 grains, and 3589 about 280 grains, would be good in the .35 Whelen. Both are out of print, so you will have to search for them on e-bay or other sources, and beware of sticker shock.:-) JDL
sundog
01-31-2004, 07:49 AM
Leon, a couple or three years ago several of the fellers over on the old shooters forum had David Mos custom cut a variant of the 358009 which eventually became affectionately known as the 358009 Improved. Only six moulds were made. It dropped .360 and 280 grains. The 'improved' part was a small meplat on the already blunt nose. It is a VERY good boolit. In fact, I built a new rifle around it with a Shilen 14 twist barrel. It will shoot MOA at 200 yards, and not even bedded - yet. There are various reports on the forums about this boolit not stabilizing in some barrels, so be careful about twist. There are also reports out there on the effectiveness of this boolit for hunting - including moose. I bet mountain moulds would cut you one if you so desired. sundog
Marshall Stanton
01-31-2004, 09:14 AM
Leon,
I'll second sundog's suggestion. The Lyman 358009 is just about perfect for the Whelen, for a heavy bullet, in fact, you really have to do something wrong for them NOT to shoot well! It's a great heavy bullet. I have them available on request if you want to shoot some before investing in what could be a pricey mold.
For a lighter bullet, from an over-the-counter mold, you'd have to look pretty hard to find a better performer than the RCBS 35-200-FN. It's a well designed and dimensioned bullet that is pretty much trouble free when it comes to load development.
For the Whelen, bullet lube quality will be a big factor in your performance/accuracy/velocity potential. You can have everything right, but a lube that isn't up to task, and your efforts will be for naught.
Hope this helps.
God Bless,
Leon Miller
02-01-2004, 02:38 PM
I wont to thank you gentlemen for your feedback. I looked up Mountain molds on the web and put it into my favorits. I will contact them about Sun dog's suggiston for a improved mold in # 358009. It appears they dont make any thing smaller than .30 caliber. Can You suggest somebody for Lyman # 225-96.
What do you sugest for lube. I normally use eather SPG or Lyman's Orange Magic.
Respectfully: Leon Leon,
I'll second sundog's suggestion. The Lyman 358009 is just about perfect for the Whelen, for a heavy bullet, in fact, you really have to do something wrong for them NOT to shoot well! It's a great heavy bullet. I have them available on request if you want to shoot some before investing in what could be a pricey mold.
For a lighter bullet, from an over-the-counter mold, you'd have to look pretty hard to find a better performer than the RCBS 35-200-FN. It's a well designed and dimensioned bullet that is pretty much trouble free when it comes to load development.
For the Whelen, bullet lube quality will be a big factor in your performance/accuracy/velocity potential. You can have everything right, but a lube that isn't up to task, and your efforts will be for naught.
Hope this helps.
God Bless,
Marshall Stanton
02-01-2004, 04:11 PM
Leon,
The Lyman Orange Magic is a pretty decent all around lube, albeit you may not get the best top velocity threshold accuracy. It's very good within it's pressure/velocity limitations.
Too, the lube we developed and sell will do an admirable job as well. I shoot a .375 H&H Ackely Improved at 2900+ fps using our lube with MOA accuracy out of an older pre-Garcia Sako Hunter model. Too, I throttle up some various .30 cals to interesting 2900+ fps levels in selected guns with the same performance. It's available here:
http://www.beartoothbullets.com/bulletselect/lube.htm
Either way, you'll do fine with the Whelen. Leave the SPG for lower velocity stuff, and specifically black powder.... besides unless you need to contend with the soft, gooey consistency of SPG, it's much more convenient to use a harder lube.
God Bless,
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