Good evening. Looks like I found a decent centerfire site. Lots of great info here as I've been lurking for a while and finally registered. I'm a rimfire nut, but I have a few CF's too.

I was curious how strong a following the Ruger No. 1 has here? I currently have .218 Bee and soon will take possession of a 45/70. Hope to add a 25-06 someday also. Thanks.

steve

Well, I own a #3 in .22 Hornet. Like most Hornets, it's pickey about its fodder but I have found a few loads it likes.

-91

I have 5 and couldn't be more pleased with them:
.22-250 1-V, .300 Wby 1-B, .375 H&H 1-H, .416 Rigby 1-H, and .45-70 1-S.

1V in .22-250 and 1S in .340 Weatherby.

Well, I own a #3 in .22 Hornet. Like most Hornets, it's pickey about its fodder but I have found a few loads it likes.

-91

I wanted a No. 1 in the Hornet, but the gun dealer talked me out of it because of that reason, so I chose the Bee.

steve

I've never owned a bee, so I don't know. I really don't know of any reason the Bee would be easier to load for. After all, they're both very tapered .22s with about the same powder capacity. How is yours?

-91

I agree, the cases are all but the same, the Bee being slightly larger. In fact, I think load data can be swapped with caution.

At first I had verticle stringing with mine. Turns out the No. 1 is picky about the fore end screw tension. After that was resolved, I was getting nice clusters again. Had to drop load development whe it got cold, but hope to pick up on it again in a few weeks, just in time for groundhogs.

steve

This thread moved from General Discussion to Single Shot Rifle Forum.

I have a #1 in .22 Hornet and absolutely love it! I've had other .22 Hornets with shorter barrels that can't come close to the velocities I can get out of my #1 (26" barrel vs 20" barrels). Accuracy is under an inch at 100 yds but seems heavy with scope and all for a Hornet rifle. Has anyone tried BTB's 60gr SP in their .22 Hornets? I have had success with Sierra's 55gr FMJBT's. I wonder if it would stabilize or not? (Ruger #1 .22 Hornet twist is 1:14") I am thinking of purchasing another in a month or so, I just don't know which caliber yet??

Well I love em.Have two presently a 1H 375 Holland and a 1S 338 winnie.
Have had a 270 and 300 winnie as well.
The vertical stringing is common with the smaller bores,I dont know what the cutoff is for what they refer to as "smaller bores",but I dont have that problem with my two.
The 300 didnot vertical string,but the 270 did.
I have a friend who had it with a 300..
Off the bench a soft rest helps with these rifles.
I believe its in the tips sidebar on this forum,there is a write up for bedding the No.1 forearm to solve the problem..
Jack

Good evening. Looks like I found a decent centerfire site. Lots of great info here as I've been lurking for a while and finally registered. I'm a rimfire nut, but I have a few CF's too.

I was curious how strong a following the Ruger No. 1 has here? I currently have .218 Bee and soon will take possession of a 45/70. Hope to add a 25-06 someday also. Thanks.

steve

Steve I have a #1B in 243 that I use out here in Idaho for both deer and varmit hunting. It is an old one and shoots llike a house a fire. You do have to do a little forarm work as they are really sensitive to forarm pressure. There is a really good article in the tech notes in this site about that. Those little bees and hornets are fun, but, out here where we shoot some long shots they are a little short of power.

Bob

I currently have only 1, an RSI model in 7x57. Love it.
Have had several in the past, and I like them.
One thing I have found with #1's is that they shoot better-sometimes a LOT better- from the bench if you move the front rest back until it's right under the point where the forend joins the action. That simple thing has helped the bench accuracy of most #1's, IME.

I have 4. Two are Varmint models in .223 and .22-250, both MOA, and the others are 1B's in .30-06 and .45-70. The .45-70 is used for deer hunting quite alot, and is very effective. The 30-06 needs to be used more, but has a tendency to string vertically with the 165 gr partitions that I'm using. I like all four a great deal.

Hey 91Carcano, I just noticed you're from Fallon, NV. I lived there from '81 to '83 when I was in the Navy. I have a good friend from work who still lives there. I miss the desert alot sometimes, especially during the hurricane season here.

I own a Ruger #1 International in 7x57 Mauser and love it. Also have a Ruger #3 in 45-70.

I think the 7x57 in a No.1 is about as classy as you can get in a modern single-shot today! Sure wished they did the stainless/laminate with sights in that caliber! :)

Fun stuff!

God Bless,

I've owned around a half dozen No.1's over the years and really like them. Currently have 2, a S model in 338 WM and a RSI in 7x57. Both are accurate. I've never owned one that was wasn't.

My only complaint with the No.1's are the smaller chamberings would benefit (I believe) from a scaled down action. Maybe 3 action sizes, small, medium, and large, similar to bolt gun actions.

Thanks for the replies! Its true, the No. 1's have a lot of class to them. As mentioned, I plan to take possession of a 45/70 this week and maybe a 25-06 before the summer is out. Gotta love 'em.

steve

"My only complaint with the No.1's are the smaller chamberings would benefit (I believe) from a scaled down action."
I would LOVE to see a smaller #1 action. Maybe sorta like Winchester's old Lo Wall/Hi Wall....
22 Hornet, 218 Bee, the 24's and 25 calibers......

"My only complaint with the No.1's are the smaller chamberings would benefit (I believe) from a scaled down action."
I would LOVE to see a smaller #1 action. Maybe sorta like Winchester's old Lo Wall/Hi Wall....
22 Hornet, 218 Bee, the 24's and 25 calibers......

I've always thought a scaled 2/3 version chambered in the rimfires would be a hot seller... 22LR, 22WMR and 17HMR.

steve

I dont own any but i love the one's i've seen and i would also love to see a No. 1 pistol... but hey, thats me.

Navy?Fallon?
Must been an airedale.
I spent 12 years (74-86) in the worlds second largest and funniest canoe club..
Gunner's Mate of course!!!!
Jack

Navy?Fallon?
Must been an airedale.
I spent 12 years (74-86) in the worlds second largest and funniest canoe club..
Gunner's Mate of course!!!!
Jack


Yep, was an airedale. Helicopter rescue. Stayed for 11 years active, 4 reserve. Quit after my first sensitivity training seminar in '93. Guess I was a slow learner. GM huh? I spent alot of time flying off the back of 1052 and 1040 class frigates. Had to check my personal weapons with the GM's. Nice folks.

Yeah?My first ship was FF 1056 (Connole), (75-76)out a Norfolk.
Had the Lamps II's seems was HSL 39 I believe.
Last ship was Stump (DD 978), (82-86)had one with us there as well.Seems it was Lamps III..
Jack

Gah, need to amend my original post lol. Totally forgot about my Ruger #1 .338 Sporter. Tough getting old hehe.

Arizona Ranger,
I was in the Brewton, R.E. Peary, and Whipple for long cruise, and the Davidson for shorties and DLQ's. HSL-37 at Barbers Point was the parent command for three years while deployed on the various cruises. This was LAMPS I (H-2's). Went back to the H-1 after. MUCH better helo than the H-2. I suppose we should be discussing the Ruger #1 in this thread, but I couldn't resist asking and answering service questions. Mike

I like the #1. It's my favourite modern-no exposed hammer rifle there is.

I got my first deer with a Ruger #1 in 25-06. I have a different calibre in mind if I ever buy one. Great rifles to be sure.

I see a few posts here that seem to be in some sort of code.....haha

No code, just military alphabet soup. Sorry if it offends.

no worries, it's kind of entertaining actually. As a non-military fellow I can read it and have almost no clue what you are saying, yet you all seem to. Interesting.

How is the Ruger #1 for recoil in 375HandH?

Carignan,actually the recoil with my 375 H@H No.1 is not bad at all..
It comes back rather like a slow mildly violent push,but not unmanageable.
But if you hold it wrong just a little on the bench, it will knock the crap out of you.
As for how it "Feels" I think my 7 Rem Mag is more uncomfortable to shoot than the 375 H@H...
I have taken several whitetails with it (not this particular rifle,but the 375 H@H),and it is by and far above all others..
It's my "favorite"...
Jack

Sounds fine to me.
I hope to get a Ruger #1 in 375HandH sometime in the next 5 or 6 years. It's 1 of the 2 hammerless rifles I want to eventually get.

I wouldn't mind owning about four more No. 1's! Hopefully within the next 4 years!!

steve

Couldnt agree more, I presently have a pair (375 and 338),have owned around half dozen other No. 1's in the past,they are to me the most beautiful,classical looking rifles around,just gorgeous.
My 375 was built in 1978 and the wood just keeps getting prettier every year..
Ole Bill definetly did his homework with this design..
Or I think he reinvented the wheel so to speak.
He seemed to have an uncanny knack for what would work and sell,and what wouldnt.
Jack

I have one Ruger #1, a 1978 Ruger-Lyman Centennial model cased set, in .45-70.
http://www.hunt101.com/img/106521.JPG

I've got a beautiful Liberty Model Ruger #1 in .458 Win Mag and it's one of my most cherished rifles.

The Ruger #1 is probably the strongest action ever built. It truly is Bill Ruger's crowning Masterpiece.

My only rifle for many years was a #1 I bought because I want to go elk hunting someday. Illinois mostly has shotgun only hunting regs, though you can use a rifle for coyotes and such in some areas.

I have a 1-S in .338 WM. I absolutely love that rifle. It is more accurate than I am, (it's deadly on a 12 ounce soda can at 250 yards unless I screw up) and now that I can afford to hunt a little bit out of state, to date it has 4, one shot deer kills to its credit. Ranges from 20 yards out to 200. Maybe a little much caliber for whitetails, but I also recently started to reload and I have been using a 200 grain load that is deadly on them. As far as recoil, it isn't as bad as my 3 1/2 inch 12 gauge Browning BPS with turkey loads.

I'm wanting a 1-V in .223 for varmint shooting, but a Medium Sporter in .243 sounds appealing. As does another 1-S in .45-70. And I would also like a Tropical in .375 H & H.

Maybe once I get the youngest daughter out of college.

#77

There is a good article on reloading the 218 Bee using Lil Gun powder at www.reloadingroom.com I use it in my contender, should be worth a try in the #1.


mikej - spent most of '70 and '71 at Yankee Station with HC-7 tending H-2s and H=3s.

Yankee Station?? :cool:
Another airedale... :eek:
HMmphh ;)
Jack

GaryS,
Sorry it took so long to reply but I was at work for a week. Yankee Station was a little before my time, but I flew with a lot of LCDR's and CDR's that were in HC-7, during that time. I didn't get in until '78, and got off active duty in '90, though was SelRes for three years after that. Seems to be quite a few Navy vets around here, That's a good thing.

Good evening. Looks like I found a decent centerfire site. Lots of great info here as I've been lurking for a while and finally registered. I'm a rimfire nut, but I have a few CF's too.

I was curious how strong a following the Ruger No. 1 has here? I currently have .218 Bee and soon will take possession of a 45/70. Hope to add a 25-06 someday also. Thanks.

steve

Dear Steve -
I've been shooting #1s for about 15 years. My favorite is a .375 H&H with a Kepplinger single aset trigger. The stock cracked alongside of the action but was easy to repair before it became a replacement problem. This rifle has performed flawlessly - and with EXTREME accuracy - with cast bullets, 235 gr, 270gr, and 300 gr bullets. It's a real keeper.
I found a #3 in .45-70 a couple of years ago and suggect that nobody in their right mind, which group certainly doesn't include me, shoot heavy loads under 500 gr bullets. That nicely made STEEL buttplate will eat your shoulder - you can take my word for it. In addition, 500 gr loads at 2,000 fops provide a really interesting case of double vision and a heck-of-a headache.
My favorite bullet in the #3 is the RN 350 grain. I think that I'd take on a cape buffalo with that rifle and load given a reasonable shot. I hope to know next fall when I return to Tanzania. From what I have seen so far, which isn't much, the new Cor-Bon 405 grain loads at about 1,800 fps can do the job beautifully. Then again these are FMJ - 405 grain bullets.
In any case I'm a Ruger falling block fan. And where else could you find a rifle as powerful as a .45-70 that weighs just over six pounds with a Redfield 1.5-4 scope. Heck, two boxes of cartridges weigh almost as much as the gun!

Enjoy the Rugers, they'll shoot

Terry

Steve,

I'm in Rockford TN, just S. of Kville. I have a #1 in 7X57, and have owned .338WM, .375 H&H, and .257Roberts. All sho(o)t great.

I have a #3 action and am currently trying to decide whether to make a .45-70 or a .38 Krag Improved.

Cheers/buffler

I've long been a fan of the No.1, but I have never had one. I do love single shots, and currently us a .30-30 Contender pistol to hunt deer.
If I had a choice it would be a .218 Bee, a .25-06 and a .458WM Tropical. I would jump on a .338-06 if they made 'em.

I would load minimum starting loads in the .458 which would equal stout .45-70 loads for hunting, and know that if I ever get the chance to shoot something bigger and more dangerous, all I would need would be a bit more powder in this beautiful gun.
As for the .22 Hornet and the .218 Bee, the Bee has more case capacity and should yield higher velocities, and it can shoot heavier bullets better.

Brent
Marlin, Ruger, Contender Fan.

The two No 1 B I have had the trigger pull set at 3 1/2 Lbs. and the fore pressure worked on to reduce vertical shot strings.The 25-06 was Mfg.Jan. 1980 and the 243 Win. was Mfg.Feb. 1987. The older rifles had adjustable triggers and some have good looking wood.

My favorite rifle is a No.1 in .458 Lott.

Glad to see this thread still active. Just put a used No.1 in 25-06 on lay-a-way this week. That'll be my third No. 1. The .416 Rigby, 243 or .270 may be my next investment.

steve

A few days I was fortunate enough to aquire a No. 1 in 45/70 caliber that I owned over 12 years ago. I sold it to an older gentlemen freind of mine who subsequently sold it a year later.
This gun is vertially new in box. I shot less than 20 rounds and the guy I sold it to shot it very little. The third owner never shot it at all.
Now the fourth owner, me, has it and plan to shoot it a whole bunch.
I bought the rifle for $525.00 which I feel was a pretty fair deal.
I wanted the .458 Lott but settled for the 45/70 - a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
I had the fortune of shooting a customized .458 Lott a few weeks ago and fell in love with the caliber.
Note: The .458 Lott will shoot .458 Winchester Mag rounds but not vice versa. The .458 Lott is approx. 2-3 hundred fps faster than the Win. .458 mag with same bullet.
Last, I plan to shoot the Remington 405 grain bullets out of my 45/70. How has the accuracy been with you all's 45/70's???

jonny

Below is a picture of my Encore with 18 inch Katahdin carbine barrel in .444 Marlin with muzzle break and my Ruger No. 1 in 45/70.
I love single shot rifles.
Still want a .405 Winchester in No. 1 or Encore configuration. hmm :)
Question: Who makes a good firesighted front site for the No. 1?

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4dd06b3127ccebb0437108be90000001610

I Own A Custom Ruger No.1h Made By Ssk Industries In Ohio. It Is Chamberd For The .600 Jdj Cartridge. It Is A .577 Nitro Express 3"case Blown Out To Take The .620 Dia Bullet. 900 To 1040 Grains. I Also Have A No.1h In .458 Win Mag. I Love Them Both!

These #1's sure seem to have great looking wood on them!

These #1's sure seem to have great looking wood on them!

I just bought a #1V in 25-06, it was made between 1978-1979. It is in mint condition, not a scratch or mark on it. The wood is absolutely beautiful. I don't know what has changed with the wood on new guns today, but the wood nowdays seems more like plastic than real wood, it just doesn't feel natural. I'm glad I found this one instead of buying a new one. I paid $450 (I'm in upstate NY) I think it was a super deal considering the condition it is in. I put a 6x20 scope on it and have put a box of Winchester Supreme Ballistic tip 80 gr. bullets through it, it is very accurate.

Hi Fellas, I'm looking to buy a Ruger #1B but can't decide which cal. .300 Win. Mag. or .338 Win. Mag. I use my .45-70 for most of my deer hunting but go out west every once in awhile and hope to hunt in Alaska one day, hopefully in the near future. I figured I would throw out the question to the guys who already one a Ruger. Respectfully, M.R.

I own a Ruger #1 International in 7x57 Mauser and love it. Also have a Ruger #3 in 45-70.

I have had two Ruger #1's. One in .243 and one in 7x57.
This was many years ago but both of these accurate calibers, would not group as expected. 2-3 inches at best and tended to string.

I still like the style and design, but that was a problem I couldn't correct. I may try one again in the near future.

I have had two Ruger #1's. One in .243 and one in 7x57.
This was many years ago but both of these accurate calibers, would not group as expected. 2-3 inches at best and tended to string.

I still like the style and design, but that was a problem I couldn't correct. I may try one again in the near future.

Years ago, I carefully glas bedded the forearm of my 7x57. This fixed a slight "stringing" problem I was having with groups. Now you can buy a fix to put inbetween the mainspring/forend hanger and the barrel to help with harmonics. I haven't had to, the glas bedding fixed my problem with the International. I'm a hunter, not really great at punchin paper. On a good day I can keep my load of 140gr Barnes X bullets all within an inch, inch and half at 100 yards and generally within 2 inches at 200 yards. I'm more than happy with that proformance.

I experianced no such accuracy problems with my #1 .338 or the #3 in 45-70.

Ah,458 Lott,man after my own heart..
The 458 winnie works well at 45/70 levels,you can also take the 7 rem mag,338 winnie and 458 winnie cases and cut back to 2" case length,for the 458 2" aka 458 AM(american),it will run above 45/70 levels in the number one.
Have an opportunity for a great deal on a number one 458 winnie and if I get it,before round one is run thru it,will become a Lott.
The Lott is very versatile as you can run the Lott,winnie and 458 2" thru it..
Gotta love them big bore number ones.
The one deal I wish I had money for,was a gun show,fellow had a 50/140 on number one with 28" barrel,brake,big swarovski,dies,molds,and one hundred pieces of brass,and couple hundred bullets for $1100.00,without the swarovski, $850.00...
Still drooling over that puppy.
Jack

I have just acquired a Ruger #1H in .405 Win. and am one happy puppy ! I won a Savage .270 bolt gun in a firemans raffle, and upgraded to the Ruger. So this is my lucky gun ! I shot two boxes of factory fodder thru it, and was extremely happy with the accuracy. One ragged hole, the size of a quarter, at fifty yards, and just over an inch, at one hundred. This, with a Weaver fixed 2.5X scope. Now that I have some brass, time to try some handloads with cast bullets. I have sized down some RCBS .416 350 gr FNGC to .4125", using a polished down .410 RCBS sizing die. The bullets look great ! The lube grooves are not distorted or smeared, as can happen with bullets sized too far down. Preliminary loads are positive. I pulled four of the factory bullets, and seated four of my own. Same one hole group ! Yee haw ! Case expansion was the same as the factory loads.

Yes, I love the the Ruger #1. I have five others that have accumulated in my safe. A 1V .22-250, 1S .338, 1H .375 H+H,1H .458, and a 1S in .45-70. All will shoot MOA, or better, with handloads. All have a decent chunk of walnut, also. 'Ole Bill certainly new his stuff, and what the public wanted, when designing this beauty .

i have a #1,45-70.next project gun.i will be needing any information on accurising this thing.i have never built one of these,what can i expect to run into.

tpv,
I've never seen a #1 that couldn't be fixed when it strung vertically, by a simple fix Frank DeHaas figured out many years ago.
Simply drill and tap the forearm hanger for a set screw of around 10-32 or 1/4-20", then installit into the hanger with a lock nut on it. Adjust the set screw so it touches the barrel firmly. Reinstall the forearm, and go shoot! The set screw can be adjusted firmer if it still strings. Once it stops stringing, it need never be adjusted again. It's good forever!

I just bought a #1V in 25-06, it was made between 1978-1979. It is in mint condition, not a scratch or mark on it. The wood is absolutely beautiful. I don't know what has changed with the wood on new guns today, but the wood nowdays seems more like plastic than real wood, it just doesn't feel natural. I'm glad I found this one instead of buying a new one. I paid $450 (I'm in upstate NY) I think it was a super deal considering the condition it is in. I put a 6x20 scope on it and have put a box of Winchester Supreme Ballistic tip 80 gr. bullets through it, it is very accurate.

I have the same rifle you have as well as a standard in the same caliber. Mine seem to like the heavier bullets a little better. 120's bring the best groups.

BTW, I just purchased property in Delhi NY, sick of Calif. Will be moving late June.

I have been watching this and a few other forums that talk about the Ruger No. 1's, you seem to be one of the better forums. That said I have owned a few of the No. 1's over the years and still do have a few laying around. Have been a Ruger collector since 1954, sold some large collections and told the wife wouldn't collect anymore. Then it was just one Ruger No. 1, then another one popped up and now I'm over a half dozen and always looking.

Nice to see this thread pop up.
I have only one. I bought it when I wanted a large caliber gun. Looking for a .458, I ended up with the #1 Tropical in .416 Rigby. A great shooter.
Pete

The Ruger 1 is not just a very well designed action and a fine shooter but it also looks so dang good ! I have three. I have a .220 Swift and a .223 for varmint hunting and a 7mm mag I picked up as a trade.

The varmint rifles have been restocked and are just beautiful. Take a look.

The Ruger 1 is not just a very well designed action and a fine shooter but it also looks so dang good ! I have three. I have a .220 Swift and a .223 for varmint hunting and a 7mm mag I picked up as a trade.

The varmint rifles have been restocked and are just beautiful. Take a look.

Who did your stock work, looks really nice. Know anyone that does rebarreling on No. 1's? I have always wanted one for my wife in .22 LR, there was a guy that use to advertise in several magazines that did such conversions. I have an extra 1978 No. 1 that could be a donor gun. :)

I know that this post has been resurrected, but The No, 1's are timeless. I have two so far, one a 7mm Rem mag and the other rechambered to 30/06 a.i.

When I found the heavily fiddleback'd wood, I knew I had to have it for my Ruger Varmint Guns. They have certainly brought me a lot of enjoyment.

I had a guy trade me a nice #1 in 7 mag. It's got some of the prettiest wood I've ever seen in a non-custom rifle.

Had a 1B in 6mm......sold and never missed it! Then I bought a #3 in a Hornet.......shot many a woodchuck with it.............re barreled it to a 40-90 Wildcat...........[.416 cal. 375H&H] other than it has a 3 1/4" long rimmed case. 300 grain at 2500 fps..............and the best part is that it is my first rifle to shoot 3/8" 3 shot groups at 100 yds....from the bench. :)

No-BS

I have a 1V in .223. Love the rifle but don't shoot it as much as I should. I've also got a 14" Contender in .223 so maybe I'll load up some LC brass and take them both to the range. :D

I have a 30/06, 7x57, and 7mm rem mag and last is a 22-250

I have a #1 in 375 H&H. **** good shooting rifle.

22 Hornet, 7x57, 30-06. 375H&H & 458 Win. The three smaller calibers have Kleppinger set triggers and all are good shooters. THe little 7mm was a gun show find, good metal, no rust, but the stock finish was clouded like it had set in a sunny window for years. It turned out to have the prettiest wood of any rifle I own.

Have only one -- 45-70, and love it. Cast and reload for it -- it adds to the fun. Am getting a set trigger from Brownells to aid accuracy.