anyone out there know anything about the model 94 Wrwngler in a 32 win SPL 5 shot with the larg loop? New in box. It has a peep sight and engraving on the receiver. Asking 395 Canadain $$$

Buy it!!! Great price.

It is a Winchester Model 94 Wrangler in 32 Winchester Special. It has Wrangler on the right side of barrel. They made just over 8000 of them.

I've seen prices now over $500.00 US $$$

Oh, if you buy take extra care of finish on receiver. Do not store in rifle case or safe where for long period of time. Condensation will wreak havoc on bluing. For some reason this effects this Wrangler and Winchester Commemoratives.

This is not a Winchester Commemorative but should be.

I love mine.

They also make a Wrangler II in 38-55 Winchester. Find that one also to make the set.

Oh, I forgot. I do not know what the peep sight is about.

Hi Yanqui, Your not sure about the peepsite? I thought the gun came that way. Do you think it was added on after it was sold. When did they make the wrangler 32 spl.

Robert,
The Wrangler was introduced in 1982, the 38/55 Wrangler II was introduced in 1984. They did not come with peep sights.

Yanqui
Why should it be a commemorative, instead of a special issue? To be a commemorative, it has to commemorate people, places or periods. Why do you think one names better than the other?

DLS,
Why should it be a commemorative? Well, I think you are right that a commemorative should signify a people, place or period. And the Wrangler does not fit in that catagory. That it should be a special run. I would have to agree.

It is special and above the commemoratives. It is a feeling that you get when handling a Wrangler.

I was looking for a Wrangler II many years ago to make the set. One of the guys in the Gun List collecting/selling Winchester Commemoratives had one. I offered to buy it from him. No way. He was selling commemoratives but was keeping the Wrangler I & II. I understood why. Another guy that understood the Wrangler I & II is the Gun Crafter who can blue the Winchester cast receiver. Even the Legendary Lawmen I have does not have the feeling.

Why do I think the Wrangler name is better than the other? It's a feeling one get's when handling one. It's the only one's I'll keep.

It's a feeling. That is the only way I can explain it.

Robert,
If it came from the factory with peep sights then definetly buy it. It might be an extra special run which means it is worth more.

It is a feeling that you get

I can relate to that, yes indeed.

I can understand you point. some guns juststand out . this is a short nice looking gun. Thanks for the replys. cheers!!

I can understand your point. some guns just stand out . this is a short nice looking gun. Thanks for the replys. cheers!! I should buy it at 395. canadian.

Nice find - in .32 WS no less! Congrats!


Is the '94 and '94 Wrangler the only iterations of .32 WS available in Winchester levers?

Mike,

If you mean currently, none of the model 94s are offered in 32WS at this time.

nfmmike,
Thanks for the post Mike. I have not bought the 32. as of yet, I may buy it this week. Store is closed until tuesday. I don't think the 32ws is offerd in the model 94 anymore. My question to people out there is: were they available from factory with the peep sight? (model 94 wrangler 32. slp) As posted by DLS : The gun did not come with a peepsite. Does anyone know for sure?

What kind of peep sight is it? Is it mounted on the tang or on the side of the receiver? I'm picturing tang mounted peep sights for some reason.

I'm not real up on peep sights. I know that there's Williams and Lyman peep sights. They mount to the side of the receiver. I do not know if they use existing holes or need holes drilled and tapped. I wouldn't drill holes on a receiver with engravings and wouldn't buy one that way. If the holes were needed on top the receiver for ghost ring sights that would be OK. Holes drilled on the tang for peep sights would be OK too. If there wasn't any engravings then it wouldn't matter. That is just me.

If the peep sights are mounted on the tang or on top of the receiver I wouldn't hesitate in buying it.

There are those with more info on peep sights than me.

Hello Yanqui, I AM CANADIAN,
Hey, thanks for getting back to me. Im sure the peep is on the tang or the top of the receiver, and It looked to me to be original.
I will find out and let you know! I'm looking at the wrangler and also the pre 64, 30-30. They are both in prestine condition. The Wrangler has a newer look to it as it should, but that 32 SLP really turned my head when I first saw it. It's very short and would be an excellent buy at 395.00 Canadian. Thanks again! I will let you know how I make out. Cheers!

I think you will find, it is not factory original.

Robert,

I am pretty sure the Wrangler didn't come with either style of peep sights from the factory. I passed up a 32 Wrangler for $325 a couple of years ago. Been kicking myself ever since. Buy it, they won't get any cheaper.

Reb

Thanks for your post Reb, I'll be in the store looking at it again . I will let you know what I can find out about the gun. I need to buy a winchester model 94 book. Then I would be able to look it up.
Later! I AM CANADAIN !

Thanks Red, Talk to you soon.

Hello Guys,
I was in the store today looking at the Wrangler 32 spl. It does not have a peep sight. I was looking at a few guns that day, I must have got too excited. Sorry for the mistake. Anyways the Timber carbine chambered in the 450. marlin had the peep sight, not the Wrangler. Its like new ! not a scratch anywhere. Large loop lever and the wrangler inscribed on the barrel. paid 395.00 Canadian, plus Tax. I looked the gun up by serial number and the gun was made in 1983 . Only made 8000, and the 32spl was chamered in the 32 spl in that year only. At least for the more current models. Anyways, Im pleased with my purchase. Thanks for all your input.

Robert,

Your gun may have been made in '83, the 32WS Wrangler was introduced in 1982.

Robert,

Your gun may have been made in '83, the 32WS Wrangler was introduced in 1982.
Yes, A friend of mine at the store looked it up. Thanks DLS! You were correct about the Wrangler. Year. Amount made, and yes! ! ! NO Peep Sight. Thanks alot for your input.

As far as I know, all of the post-64 Model 94s up to the angle eject version came drilled and tapped for the Lyman/Williams style of receiver sight. These are the type that mounts on the left rear receiver wall. This apparently includes all of the commemoratives which used that receiver. In "The History of Winchester Friearms 1866-1980", by Barnes, Watrous, Rikhoff, Hall and Kuhlhoff, all pictures of commemorative models which show the left receiver wall show the plug screws in the peep sight holes. However, the only sights furnished were open sights on the barrel, and it has been a very long time since Winchester guns were furnished with a choice of sights. Receiver sights found on these post-64 versions are an after market addition.

Mike,

If you mean currently, none of the model 94s are offered in 32WS at this time.

Of course they aren't, more's the pity.

I should have been more specific: did W ever produce the .32 WS in any other than the 20" carbine or the Wrangler? Marlin made them in longer barrel lengths, just wondering if Winchester did as well.

Sorry, Mike

I see what you're saying, yes they did. The 32WS was first produced in 1902 and up until the mid-1930s you could special order anything you wanted. Standard though, were the carbine as you said, or the 26" barreled rifle. Round & octagon barrels were available, octagon barrels were not considered "special order" but were a $1.50 option. The 32WS was in continuous production until 1973, rifles were dropped from the catalog circa 1924-26, although there were rifles made after that date with existing stock.

Quarter Choke

The drilling & tapping of the left side of receiver for receiver sights started circa 1951-52 (at the time the D&T was dropped from the tang) near serials 1,900,000 and as you stated, were dropped with the introduction of the "AE" receiver in 1983.

Robert,

You're welcome sir, although the thanks for the production numbers goes to Yanqui. ;)

A very interesting discussion. Discussing the 94 and its history over the last 110 years, one is on thin ice to use the words "ever" and "never". At one time or another just about anything that is possible to do with that gun has been done.

Robert Anderson,
Good for you. Welcome to the Wrangler Society. You will never be the same.

I wonder if we can come up with a logo? Maybe 2 Wrangler's crossing like calvary swords with some kind of skull with a cowboy hat or a steer's skull with feathers but still have the Wrangler's crossing.

Hey DLS,
Did I buy that large loop lever from you?

Yanqui,

Yes sir you did. I love the look, just couldn't get use to it. Too many years with the little one I suppose. ;)

DLS, :D
Just to let you know that I'll be installing it on a Winchester Model 94 Cowboy Commemorative as soon as it arrives and I pick it up. Of course I'll have to have the barrel shortened to 16". :cool:

See, now I like the 20" with the big loop.

Yanqui, wer are you getting the figures for the special issues? I have 'em for the others, but not those.

Are you referring to the Winchester Commemoratives? If so here you go. http://www.doublegun.com/roth.htm

1970 COWBOY 30-30 cal. 28904 mfg. $545
Engraved Nickel plated receiver, medallion in stock, 20" round barrel.

Used, for a whole lot less

As for the Wranglers I & II the info is in the Blue Book.

Yanqui,

Thanks, I was talking of Wranglers, Antiques, Classics etc.
I have the production numbers for the commemoratives, but not the special issues. Do you mean Wrangler & Wrangler II? I don't believe the 32WS Wrangler was marked as a I.

No, it wasn't. But sometimes you have to put the (I). Not everyone is familiar with the Wrangler series. If I just put down Winchester Model 94 Wrangler it could refer to any Wrangler.

I have my Blue Book somewhere in the garage. I'll have to see if I dig it out.

In the Blue Book they list the Wrangler II in both 32 W.S. and 38-55 Winchester. I found a guy who had one in 32 W.S. I should have bought it. Oh, well.

Wrangler II in 32WS? Neat, didn't know that, thank you.

Sorry, Mike

I see what you're saying, yes they did. The 32WS was first produced in 1902 and up until the mid-1930s you could special order anything you wanted. Standard though, were the carbine as you said, or the 26" barreled rifle. Round & octagon barrels were available, octagon barrels were not considered "special order" but were a $1.50 option. The 32WS was in continuous production until 1973, rifles were dropped from the catalog circa 1924-26, although there were rifles made after that date with existing stock.

I suppose if they were still being produced, some of the romance would never have exhibited itself. Well, I have the one, and will either aquire another or have one made from an old 336 - so far teh barrels are still available.

Thanks for the info - great topic!!!

You have to love all those little town gunshops!!!
Thanks again for all the help guys. I have a few winchester lever guns but this is my first 32spl and first large loop lever. I really like it. My other 94 models are all XTR' s 375 win, and 22. I Would like to find a mint XTR 22mag. One with the smooth forarm. Also maybe the XTR in the 444. I sold my first XTR375win about 15 years ago. It took me about 10 years of looking in stores to find another, in mint shape. Paid 325.00 canadian or about 200.00 American. It's was fun shopping for. But I honestly thought I was about to give up. Then went into a store up in Orillia Ontario to buy a box of ammo, when there it was. Wow! Was I happy. Was the Wrangler a better buy ? Are they hard to find in the 32spl? How much would one pay for a new one in the box. ???

Robert Anderson,
I was wondering how are you doing with your 32 WS Wrangler? Have you thought about twirling it?

I like it alot. I have not shot it as of yet, but looks good in the safe . Really short little girl. She is almost to short to twirl. Looks tiny beside my sako delux 340 weatherby mag. Take care!

I hope to shoot it this week at the club. Enjoy!