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chuckinator
02-25-2004, 02:41 PM
Hello everybody, i was looking at an XTR Big Bore, in 375 cal. And it sure looks nice, but i was wondering did that gun come from the factory drilled and tapped? I don`t wanna get ripped. Any advice welcome. Oh and gun does not have a safety. Thanks

bartmasterson
02-25-2004, 05:30 PM
By drilled and tapped, do you mean on the top of the barrel or receiver, for a scope? To my knowledge this was not done at the factory. I believe that they did all come standard with drilled and tapped sidemount receiver sight holes though.

william iorg
02-26-2004, 03:38 AM
That brings up a good question. I have never seen a .375 Angle Eject. these were cataloged by Winchester Does anyone have one?

DLS
02-26-2004, 04:10 AM
william,

I don't have one but, there are a couple of fella's on Leverguns.com (http://leverguns.sixgunner.com/Default.asp) that do. 307, 356, Angle Eject introduced and the 375 discontinued in 1983, with some overlap into "AE" receivers. AEs were D&Ted on top of the receivers.

Harry Snippe
02-26-2004, 05:08 AM
Hello everybody, i was looking at an XTR Big Bore, in 375 cal. And it sure looks nice, but i was wondering did that gun come from the factory drilled and tapped? I don`t wanna get ripped. Any advice welcome. Oh and gun does not have a safety. Thanks

If you do not want to get ripped on a good XTR,then better lay your money down **** quick, before any oneelse does.
I sure grab it up with out a thought.
If you drill and tap it it might loose some of it's value as a collector , but I assume you want to shoot it.
Happy :D

Robert Anderson
02-26-2004, 06:49 PM
I have one . Getting very hard to find. This is my second xtr375. sold my first. That was stupid !!! I looked hard and found another 375 in mint shape. 15 years later! Big Bore 375 Win SN#BB035884
They do come drilled and tapped for side receiver mount only. Really nice gun. Buy it!!! As somone else told me: Do not walk but run and buy that Big Bore 375 Win.

Robert Anderson
02-26-2004, 07:02 PM
HI Harry, Found the XTR 375 at Tremblays in Orillia.
I was on my way up north moosehunting, stopped in for some ammo, walked out with a new gun. Ive done that a few times. I told my wife I just had to have it. It was a must buy!!!!! About a little over a year ago the same thing happened with my ruger 44 mag sporter. Go in for ammo, come out with gun. Come to think of it, thats always what happens. Some guns are hard to find and when you least expect it !!!!! Bam !! there it is!!! I HAVE TO HAVE IT> so you get your card out and pull the trigger!! Have a nice night.

william iorg
02-27-2004, 04:09 AM
Robert,

My .375 Big Bore is 40149. Ours are 4265 numbers apart. Probably made pretty close together. Mine was new-no box when I bought it. A good shooter.

DLS
02-27-2004, 04:19 AM
william,

Does yours have the "BB" prefix serial number? They used two serial number ranges, just curious as to whether you had one of the Angle Eject .375s.

william iorg
02-27-2004, 05:29 AM
Sorry about that. Yes the ful serial is BB040149. Ours are pretty close together.

I have never seen an Angle Eject .375. I'll bet they are not common!

DLS
02-27-2004, 07:37 AM
Common, no, not really, but they are out there. That's why I asked about the BB prefix, AE's didn't not have the prefix.
Also the AE's were D&Ted on top of the receiver for scope mount.

Robert Anderson
02-27-2004, 06:54 PM
Robert,

My .375 Big Bore is 40149. Ours are 4265 numbers apart. Probably made pretty close together. Mine was new-no box when I bought it. A good shooter.
Nice find William. Where are you from?
I live in Ontario Canada! Enjoy your Big Bore! Cheers!

Robert Anderson
02-27-2004, 07:08 PM
Sorry about that. Yes the ful serial is BB040149. Ours are pretty close together.

I have never seen an Angle Eject .375. I'll bet they are not common!
Hey William iorg,
The Big Bore 375 win is not all that common. It can be found but, not an easy find. I have been looking for one off and on for 10 years. Although I did see a few in stores, none of them were in like new condition. I found one about 5 years ago! MINT . Paid under 400.00 canadian or 270.00 U.S.
Would like to find the 444 to match. I have looked at a few while surching for my 375. But they were not mint! I will find one someday.

Harry Snippe
02-29-2004, 05:47 AM
HI Harry, Found the XTR 375 at Tremblays in Orillia.
I was on my way up north moosehunting, stopped in for some ammo, walked out with a new gun. Ive done that a few times. I told my wife I just had to have it. It was a must buy!!!!! About a little over a year ago the same thing happened with my ruger 44 mag sporter. Go in for ammo, come out with gun. Come to think of it, thats always what happens. Some guns are hard to find and when you least expect it !!!!! Bam !! there it is!!! I HAVE TO HAVE IT> so you get your card out and pull the trigger!! Have a nice night.
Robert
I saw one in Sundrige last year . A Smith had changed the wood for a lad and then put the old wood back on a new gun. I Almost bought it , but , if there was anything wrong with the gun I would have had a long trip to exchange it. It did not make sense to do this to a new rifle.
The 375 XTR375 would interst me more than the 45/70 I think . ;) It would be flatter shooting and do the things Iwould want the rifle to do. But I do not look at the collector value of a gun hense I would not play the bucks, because it now a collector . I would want it as a shooter.
I have a few old rifles, that have dings in the wood and bluing wear. Mechanically and barrel wise they are excellent, and that is the way I bought them. When I hunt with them I do not feel bad if branch puts a mark on them, as a little oil fix's that up.
I had a rifle that was worth a few bucks as a collector and I was always worried about putting a mark on it and hense did not enjoy hunting with it. I have an A3 Sako in the cabinet now that I do not want to mark for the same reason.
The 45/70 guide I bought as a hunting rifle . It has some honest marks on the stock now from going in heavy cover but,it is a hunting rifle , so I look after it, but, I am thinging , the value is in it's use rather than what I could later sell it for.

So were do you stand ?Are you into collecting or into shooting? :)

Happy

william iorg
03-01-2004, 05:01 AM
[QUOTE=So were do you stand ?Are you into collecting or into shooting? :)

SHOOTING!

My brother an I argue this point over and over. If every kimber, Purdey or Westly Richards spends its life in the gun safe what is the point? We have several Commemeratives and we shoot them to. Makes my brothers guns more valuable!

NewPigHunter
03-03-2004, 09:04 AM
I have a top-eject BigBore94 in .375 Winchester. Fantastic and great fun to shoot.

Uses a sidemount bracket for mounting a scope. I have a Weaver 3C sidemount for a Simmons scope, and a Kwiksite for my red dot sight.

I get double the pleasure from the rifle because Paco Kelly told me that it would also shoot .38-55 ammo. It's a few dollars less per box so .38-55 is now my have-fun plinking ammo.

Cheers,

Carl

bartmasterson
03-04-2004, 07:37 PM
If you really want to save a few bucks, try this:

32 gr Re7 @ $20/lb = $.09/round
CCI200 @ $20/1000 = $.02/round
260 gr GC hardcast @ $30/250 = $.12/round
100 38-55 Win cases @ $35/100 loaded 5 times = $.07/round

So a box of custom "plinkers" costs about $6 plus your time. Of course the tools cost something but will pay for themselves many times over if you do it a lot. The brass will outlast 5 loadings at these pressure levels so it's really less, and if you can find a suitable bullet cheaper, so much the better. Fireforming 30-30 brass can help a lot too. I haven't checked lately but I'll bet factory 38-55 cost $20+/box. Hopefully I did correct math.

This is one of the prime reasons I got into handloading in the first place, and I'll bet a bunch of people here did too. There's nothing like being able to shoot 3 times as much for the same price, and even in hard times if you've got some components you can usually come up with something to shoot. The downside is buying tools, powder, bullets, and cases for a new cartridge...this can run $100+.

All that said, I will chime in with you about the 375 Win and rifles it's chambered in. This is a sleeper round that is in more demand now than it was while in production...and I understand why! And with the ability to use 3 different cases and cheap bullets it's really versatile.

Shhhh...don't tell anyone...

NewPigHunter
03-05-2004, 07:23 AM
I'm very "fortunate" to live in SoCal ..... for all the nonsense around this place one of the saving graces is that a local friend of mine does reloading for me. I bring him the brass and he charges me about 20 cents per round. It might take a month or two until he can get it done, but that's OK by me. He knows exactly what he's doing and has all the right equipment.
Right now he has 500 pieces of .375 Win brass and will put together 200 with Hornady 220-gr, and the rest with Sierra 200-gr.
He also has about 150 pieces of .38-55 brass and will make 'em up with 250-gr.
And he even reloads my .45 Long Colt. What a pal !!

I bought a BigBore94 in .375 Win way back in 1979 or so, when it was new in the stores. I was a young kid who didn't understand such things as reloading, and ended up trading it a few years later for a new radiator.
When (for no good reason at all) I recently got the itch to get another one for all the wrong reasons, it wasn't until someone pointed me to a few of the "levergun forums" that I finally understood just how 'higher-performance' most any firearm can become with some judicious reloading.
Then to learn from Paco Kelly that my supposedly humble .375 Win can be made suitable for moose.... why, that just boggles my limited and untrained imagination.
And then Paco says I can also use .38-55 Win ..... that's when I went into information overload and had to ask him twice just to be sure that's what he actually said.

So once again I stumble around in utter darkness and end up in a good place to be.

Cheers,

Carl