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kramsey
02-26-2004, 04:25 PM
Hello, I relativley new to shooting as a sport/hobby. I like to 22LR plink and target practice in the 100 or so acres out back. I've noticed that there are some subsonic 22's offered. What would they be best used for? Experiences with these? Thanks for replies!

AZ223
02-26-2004, 05:53 PM
Subsonics are good to about 50-75 yards, after that they drop off pretty fast. What are they used for? Most people keep them on hand for backyard "varmint control", as they don't make much noise in most guns with a 20" or longer barrel. Keep in mind if you're going to sight in a rifle with a scope, various rounds shoot differently, and it can be a very pronounced difference in a 22 caliber. Best bet is to zero at 50 yards with Remington or Federal "standard" rounds (around 1200fps MV) and then check to see where you're hitting at 100yds once you have it on at 50. Plan on impact being quite a bit higher with hypervelocities, and lower with subsonics or shorts.

Just my $.02

Jack Monteith
02-26-2004, 06:13 PM
I've found the Remington Subsonic hollowpoints accurate and pretty rough on crows and gophers. These were close shots, under 50 yards. They expand well. They should perform at the price they want for them.

Bye
Jack

monty
02-26-2004, 07:13 PM
do subsonics cycle autos? (i've never tried 'em but i think i'm gonna)

monty

Jack Monteith
02-26-2004, 07:41 PM
Subsonics are almost as powerful as the old standard velocity long rifle and they cycle my pistol smartly, but I've seen a rifle that needed Yellow Jackets to cycle, after a lube job. Try them and see.

Bye
Jack

AZ223
02-26-2004, 08:07 PM
do subsonics cycle autos? (i've never tried 'em but i think i'm gonna)
monty
The Remington subsonics cycled fine in my friend's Ruger 10/22.

simmonsguns
02-26-2004, 08:14 PM
hi,pmc has some good ones,they work in my ruger m2,and i have built a couple of special m2's for local law enforcement of the federal type that were suppressed and not suppressed,they all function no matter what i fed them.the rounds also work in 1022's quite well.

Leon Miller
02-28-2004, 03:19 AM
I like the C.B. shorts for the squirrels that raid my cabin. I have tried The C.B. Long rifle as well with good success. The shorts are very quite and don't exit the bodies so they don't go threw my ceiling.

Leon

Giovanni
03-01-2004, 04:10 PM
I use Winchester subsonic hp to shoot pigeons

Really accurate and quite from my Mauser 201.

azshooter
03-03-2004, 06:56 PM
I use Winchester subsonic hp to shoot pigeons

Really accurate and quite from my Mauser 201.

Remington subsonics work great in my 10/22 as well - of course every LR I have tried worked well with my 10/22. My Remington 597 won't cycle well but then again it won't cycle anything well.

Lasre
03-20-2004, 02:02 AM
I use win subsonic with a suppressor in my custom 10/22 clone and find by siteing in at 70m with a mil-dot reticle I get relaible one shot stops to in excess of 150m on rabbits. In the last couple of months i have had 40 kills on rabbits at 150metres i missed twice and 1 rabbit required a finishing shot. From a 70m zero 150m requires 5mils or 750mm or 2 1/2 feet of holdover and upto 3mils for wind is common.
I find with 22Lr ammo whether subsonic or super it actually seems to kill better at 100-150m than at less than 100m.

monty
03-20-2004, 06:30 AM
lasre: thats an excellent record for the last coupla months!!! good job. our main target locally is the richardson's ground squirrel (gopher) and while smaller targets, are easier to kill with a marginal shot. i have to limit shots to 100 yds because of wind drift. (always windy where i live), but i have always used stingers. am gonna try subs.

monty

shooter22
03-22-2004, 11:39 PM
I have tried a bunch of subsonics through the years an I like the Eley subsonics. I have taken squirrels, rabbits, and one ground hog. The report of the subs is real quiet. It does not spook the tree rats at all. The one ground hog was in our back yard and messing with the dogs and would not go away. We live in town and did not want to bother the neighbors, so we got the eleys and dropped it in one shot.

Not one neighbor knew.


Yes they will cycle a semi-auto.

ENGLANDER
03-26-2004, 10:47 AM
Hello from Scotland~

I "ONLY" shoot sub-sonics in my .22 as we are allowed "silencers" :D :D :D My Krico semi-auto likes every thing ive ever fed it "EXCEPT" Eley ! :rolleyes:

Ive used RWS , CCI , Winchester (Austrailan) , MAP or some thing like that looked just like Winchester except very dirty and not as accurate,

I find RWS while excellant quaility the have a horrible greasy lube which attacts "CRAP" something rotten better off in bolt actions.

Winchester 40 gn subs are very good the hollow point seems to open up well, certinally accurate enough. Our Winchester seems to be loaded or packed in Australia ?

CCI subs with copper coloured heads 36 gn i think work very well in my rifle i normally use Win or CCI whcih ever i can get at the time. CCI do not seem to expand like Winchester and seems harder lead alloy.... but shot though a rabbits head ? hey dead is dead !

Have fun ....

Englander

FullClip
04-02-2004, 04:41 AM
Aguial makes some sub-sonic "sniper" rounds. On these the bullet is much longer and heavier than normal (60 grains) but the case is that of a .22 short, so the over all length is the same as a .22LR. Have tried to attach some pictures of a little test I did, but no joy with the "Manage Attachments" link. Wish I could get it to work as it shows the shots at 25 yards from a Ruger 77/22 all key-holing and maybe 6" group, shots from a Ruger 10/22 all within a couple of inches and no key-holes, and from a Marlin 39 starting out ok, but after a few shots starting to key-hole. The rounds are very quiet, and the 60 grain bullet takes out squirrels very well. Think that the twist rates of the barrels are to slow to stabilize the bullet, and the best I could measure using a cleaning rod and brush is that the 77/22 was 1-18" and the 10/22 was 1-16". Seems strange that Ruger would use two different twist rates in thier rifles, so maybe I knackered up the measurments. Anybody have the real data on the twist rates? By the way, no problem cycling the action on the 10/22, or feeding in the 77/22, but the Marlin bent a few while feeding. If I can get the attachments working, will post the pictures later.