I am alittle surprised know one has mentioned Garrett's new Super Jack ammo coming out.It has know competiton with Beartooth as it is the great Woodleigh bullet.I personally like the look's of the 350 grain.Here it is.Jayco.
I'm letting of few of my friends know about a new offering
or offerings from Garrett Cartridges. The exact number is still
undetermined, but it is a certainty that we will be offering a 500-grain
Woodleigh Weld-Core bullet, specially nose-flattened for use in lever-guns,
at 1600-fps. Despite the high velocity, this load will comply with our
35,000-cup limit for the caliber. These Woodleigh Weld-Core bullets
are unusually tough, and perform similarly to our 540-grain Hammerhead.
However, unlike our 540-grain Hammerhead, the new SuperJack Ammo will
function in virtually all modern 45-70 rifles. Also, the Woodleighs
provide a blunter front end than any of the current 500-grainer available
elsewhere. We're pretty excited about their performance, and expect to
have them available to our customers within 30 days. They will go for
either $60 or $65 for twenty rounds, depending upon our final costs for
the premium Woodleighs.

Cordially, Randy Garrett
www.GarrettCartridges.com

For the folks that prefer jacketed, these ought to be some awesome rounds! Thanks for the heads-up, guess I'' have to update my .444/.450/.45-70 comparison as soon as Randy settles on a cost figure!!

I can only imagine a 350 grain jacketed bullet so tuff it only partially expands and probably retains most if not all of it's weight.The classic example of penetration and expantion or shock.I will save my pennies for a box of those.If used only for hunting,they will last me a lifetime.

In my opinion being a jacketed bullet fan,these could be the ultimate big game stopper for the 45-70.

Just my opinion.Jayco.

logcutter
Sounds like randy did it again.. sound like it will be another very good round ..from the folks at Gerrett

Pottys
P.S the other way to get uniformaty is to have it ( the bullet) expand in the middle .

P.S.S

I shot more of the 540 grain hammerheads now i am out :(
I went through anyother box...... Ouchhhhhhhh.....

i pulled the last ones bullet and took a long look ..
grab some new lead and crunched out some jackets and Wooohaa
made myself some 500 grain 7/8s jacketed FN's
This in no way means i will stop buying Randy M. Garrett's ammo
i just wanted a peek inside . The guy( Mr Garrett) has this down pat..

i thank you my father thanks you and my arm well its still undecided

Pottsy

You can order Woodleigh's through Midway. I'm shooting 405's right now.

You can order Woodleigh's through Midway. I'm shooting 405's right now.
You can do that except your getting the 350 grain Woodleigh Round Nose.Randy has flattened the nose of the 350 grain Woodleigh RN to a .330 Meplat,the same as his 420 grain Hammerhead and we all know how his Hammerhead has done in the world on game.Should the 350 grain Woodleigh Weldcore not open(expand) at whatever velocity and acts as a cast/solid,you have the benefit of a .330 Meplat for the damage a cast bullet would make without expanding.

Jayco

Well experiance tell me don't use a soft point and hope if it doesn't expand that it drives like a solid because your asking for trouble. Years ago before the heavy bullet craze hit the 44 mag I loaded the 265gr Hornady Sp meant for the.444. Well i shot it into alot of different materials and it wouldn't expand, sometimes the exposed lead nose portion would deform. This invites eratic penetration. and possibe deflection of bone If you want deep penetration use a hard cast or solid, if you want expansin shoot a soft point designed for the velocity your shooting. Just my 2c. I have used both Garrett and BB ammo and they are excellent. Pleasant shooting!

My first Elk hunt was in 1952 in the Selway Bitteroots of Idaho and I can telll you on Elk,nothing works better than a Premium expanding bullet from experience.Believe what you want but Elk are tough and no two react the same with the same shot and a bullet that expands and penetrates is far better than a hole in and a hole out.Seen it to many times.

My opinion from Idaho....Jayco