I just got a used .35 Rem 336RC from a friend of my Mom's who just wanted it out of the house.

I'm going to start reloading for it shortly, but am not sure about bullet selection. I am told that many .35 bullets are too hard for the .35 Rem because they are made for .35 Whelen velocities. So, for those of you who have experience shooting deer-sized animals with this cartridge, please tell me what you have used that did/did not perform properly at .35 Rem velocity.

Good question.
Are some bullets a bit too stoutly constructed for the .35Rem. to make the bullets perfomr as they would at higher velocity.

Lyman has this quote, " Some current 358" diameter bullets feature heavy construction designed for the higher velocities of other cartridges. Such bullets may not perform at 35 Rem. levels."...they only list 3 rifle bullets in their data: Speer 180gr., Speer 220gr., and the Hornady 220gr.

There are other manuals that list other bullets...some suitable and some not...good manuals (speer, Hodnady, Lyman, and others) lmay not list a bullet in their .35Rem. data...and there is proably a good reason that they don't.

Bullets doen't know what launched them....it's about impoact velcoity at the range used. Waht a 35Rerm. does at 150 yards is about the same as what a 35Whelen does at 450yards. NOw the Whelen isn't a great 450yard cartridge and I'd not expect a great deal of expasnion for either of them at that impact velocity.

Guess the good news is that a too hard bullet still bores on theough and at least makes a .35cal. hole. Push a too lightly constructed bullet and it generaly makes a big crater on the surface (and some of the JHP pistol bullets can be pushed too fast in the .35Rem.,).

The Hornady 200gr. RN is a pretty good match for the factory bullet in .35Rem.

The Hornady is OK if you're close enough, but it's the toughest of the lot. It really comes down to the Remington 200 grain Core-Lokt and the Speer 180 grain Flat Nose.

Have you seen this thread?
http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=4453

Bye
Jack

Hi Guy`s,

Heres a link to some of the best P+ load data I have ever used plus some real good reading on the performance of the bullets used for the 35 Remington.This guy has really done his homework.I have used most of the load data on this link and have found it to be right on the money in my Gun.I use the 200gr Remington corloc bullet and the 200gr Hornady also with awsome performance from both but get better groups with the Hornady.

http://www.marlinowners.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=2041

Happy Hunting
Riflemen10x

About the 200gr Core-Lokt: It is described as a pointed soft point bullet. Now, I thought I couldn't use pointed bullets in a tube magazine. I have seen the bullet, and it is kinda pointy, but the end is indeed blunt. It's not wide enough, however, to prevent the tip of the bullet from resting solely on the primer of the round ahead of it.

Am I looking at the wrong bullet?

Hi Guy`s,

The 200gr corloc is a round nose bullet that looks just like the 200gr Hornady bullet.The 180gr speer and the 150gr Remington corloc are spitzer looking but have a flat point that you can use in the levergun tube without problems.

Riflemen10x

I use the 180-grain Speer FP. It's a great bullet

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Michael

Sabre,

I believe I am correct in reporting that there are two different Core-Lokt, 200 grain, 35 cal. bullets produced, and loaded in factory ammo, from Remington.

One is a 200 gr. RN (round nose) and works very well in 35 Rem. handloads as it does in the factory ammo. The other is a pointed 200 gr., 35 cal. bullet which Rem. loads in it's factory ammo for 35 Whelen. In the Whelen it performs very well on deer-size game. Personally, I have never reloaded this bullet in the Whelen or the 35 Rem.

As you know, the pointed version should not be used in tubular magazine rifles EXCEPT if you limit use to one in the chamber and ONLY one in the magazine. I used to do that in the early 1960's with 125 grain 30 cal. bullets for my Win. 94. I stalked groundhogs at close range with that combo but only used my 30-30 as a two-shot repeater when carrying the pointed bullets.

I have loaded the 220 gr. flatnosed Speer bullets in my 35 Rem. They shoot well but I have not chronographed them and have not fired them at game. They are probably not going fast enough for dramatic upset except at powder burn ranges. This weekend I will be using that bullet (MV near 2400 fps) in my 35 Whelen for whitetails in Missouri. That's a whole different level of impact than I will ever try to wring out of a 35 Rem.

Any of the RN 200 gr. bullets should work well in handloads that approach loading manual maximums for the 35 Rem. With a 35 Whelen in my gunlocker, I leave the "over maximum" 35 Rem. handloads to other folks.

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"Hunt close, then get closer."

Its been a while since I handloaded any 35 Rem. ,but I had a load that dupicated the 35rem. 200 gr. Cor-lokt factory round ,I was always pleased with that bullet,at the factory vel.I've got a 336 RC 35 rem. in lawaway and will soon behandloading again for this round.
I'm thinkin bout tring some 180 gr. Hornady XPT's ,I'd like to know if you guys have a good recipe.? Maybe with IMR 3031 ? I 've got alot of that powder.

I've also used that 200 gr. Cor-Lokt in my .356 ,( I flattened the RN a little. I pushed fassst,for that bullet and shot a Small buck with it at about 45yd.s ,the bullet exited but I found lots of damage to the deer. and bits of copper .the deer fell over and attemped to get up , but just shook all over and died. It happen fast before I could take a step.
It works different at those speeds ,bout 2450 fps.

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The 200 grain Core-lokt will do whatever you need on deer if loaded at or slightly above factory loads if you do your part and put the bullet in the right place. I've used the 220 Speer flat nose on deer and hogs with MV ranging from 1950fps to 2200fps, and these heavier bullets always seem to be a bit more accurate out of my gun. The 180 grain Speer does give you a flatter shooting load, but unless you have it leaving the barrel between 2150 & 2300 fps it gives up downrange energy. My choice of game using the 180 would be deer only within 200 yards. Hotloading the 220 gives you enough power to take larger game, preferably inside of 125 yards, buts that's my personal limitations; yours may be different.

While I have not hunted with the .35 Rem, I have loaded both the 200 gr Hornaday soft (round) nose and the Speer 180 "flat point" The Speer provided excellent accuracy, and when loaded to the same 100 yd point of impact of factory ammo, had noticably less recoil. If there is one area that got me, it was that the Speer did not have a bevelled base. Be very careful of forcing the bullet into the case neck. I managed to buckle a couple of cases below the shoulder (not noticeable until I found that it wouldn't chamber). Maybe a slight case mouth expansion should be tried.

Dave

Jack Monteith, didnt you do a .35 caliber bullet expansion test back in 2002? I have it in a note book but it is trimmed and I think it was from this forum but cannot loacte it now.

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slim

Here's the post you're thinking of. It's in Leverguns-General because the 336 forum wasn't set up until later. The original post was in 2000, in the old forum that doesn't exist now.
http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=4170
The newer Hornadys with the nose slits aren't any better, as James Gates notes in this thread.
http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=2279

The Hornadys that didn't expand showed the problem as the lead over the nose was wiped off. The jacket extends over the nose more than it looks, as there's lead smeared over the point. The actual nose opening is quite small, compared to the other suitable bullets.

I did a quick and dirty expansion test with the Speer 220 grain Flat Nose this fall in 10 liter herbicide jugs. Muzzle velocity was 1950 fps. I know some folks are moving them faster, but I don't have any of the powders they're using on hand. At 10 yards, the recovered bullet weighted 199 grains and the bullet fired at 100 yards weighted 213 grains. Both expanded to almost 1/2", retained their cores and penetrated 4 jugs.

This isn't a valid comparison with my wetpack tests, but at this point I'd take the 220 Speer over the 200 Hornady and the Core-Lokt over both. The fellow with the handle of "35 Remington" over at the Marlin Owners board has done a lot more bullet testing than I have, and I haven't seen any contradiction between his results and mine.

Bye
Jack

Anyone ever try a Nosler 180 grain Partition out of their .35 Rem? Thanks, LIV

158 gn hornady soft tip. Made for the .357 mag and max it does perform very well on deer sized game. I have used it and it will go clear through on heart lung shots. The 110gn hp will go through both lungs and heart and the jacket can usually be recovered on the off side under the hide, it will look a bit like a kung fu star. Either will work but I do recommend the 158gn. Velocities for the 158 in a 35 rem make it a little flatter at 100.